At 20:05 2007-01-22, Thomas Hruska wrote:
>Rick wrote:
> > Thomas,
> >
> > Thank you for this reply. It show me this list *can* be productive.
> > And your offer to supply the book is extremely generous.
>
><grin>
>
>I'm this list's owner.  It is kind of the "job description" to be
>helpful/productive/etc.
>
>
> > Victor has a lot of knowledge to share. I'm sure of that. But his
> > frustration with those with less knowledge often shows as being
> > sarcastic and demeaning. It is counter-productive here.
>
>He has his good days.  Especially if you ask something advanced'ish.
>Mostly he's just grumpy, especially around the C camp.  Too many
>beginners wanting to learn C so he yells at 'em to get 'em to switch to
>C++.  Yelling doesn't usually work.

Rule 1:  Get the student's attention.
and as a rule, I don't yell first.  Some people seem to think that if 
you don't write a Ph.D. thesis on the WHY you're being rude.
I don't have time to write lengthy explanations that are given in 
readily obtainable books.


>(You've got to have one protagonist and one antagonist in every story or
>it won't be much of a story, right?)
>
>
> > I know there are a lot of posters looking for handouts here. I see it
> > all the time and it frustrates me immensely. But I simply choose to
> > ignore the posts and don't reply. Well, mostly. I think I've replied
> > to a few out of frustration, myself.
>
>The group welcome message says something along the lines of "We don't
>write your homework solutions for you.  Do your own homework but we'll
>help if you get stuck.  Supply source code."  And they don't bother
>reading it.
>
>
> > I want to learn from here. That is why I read the posts.
> > Unfortunately, I can't help much as I'm learning C++ myself although
> > it's my nature to help where I can.
> >
> > I'll read the book.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > ~Rick
>
>You're welcome.
>
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