Hi everyone.

On 08/26/09 07:25, sanjay nadkarni (Laptop) wrote:
> Dave Miner wrote:
>> [ Procedural nit - is there a reason why this discussion isn't 
>> happening on caiman-discuss? ]
> Darn..u beat me to it again!!
>>
>> Frank Ludolph wrote:
>> ...
>>> The DDU is silently run on the first boot following installation. If 
>>> there are missing drivers, the DDU will silently and automatically 
>>> begin loading any drivers that are available in the default repo, 
>>> usually the opensolaris release repo. At the same time, if there are 
>>> additional devices missing drivers that are not available from the 
>>> repository DDU will post a Missing Driver notification. (attached)
>>>
>>
>> I'm a bit concerned about the "silently and automatically" part; 
>> well, at least the "silently" aspect.  This operation can take some 
>> time, and may fail.  How does the user know about this, and 
>> understand failure modes, especially in the instance where the driver 
>> is critical to installation (such as a driver for the disk HBA)?
>>
> Dave: Note that it's the boot after installation that this is run so 
> driver HBA for installation should not  be an issue.
No, it's not the boot after installation.  Driver Update is run *before* 
the installation, so the installer can take advantage of any devices 
which had missing drivers in a Live CD or text-install environment.

I see the issue about error handling...  There's already a notification 
popup which displays if one or more devices are missing a driver after 
the silent mode auto-installation.  If there are errors, we can just 
display in the popup that errors occurred and 1) to check a logfile for 
details, 2) tell the user to try again.  In interactive mode there 
should be some way of seeing an error.

Frank, your thoughts?

>
> That said, I too have concerns about "silently" downloading anything.  
> Such actions often arouse people suspicions.  I am not sure I quite 
> understand the rationale behind "silently" downloading drivers.  While 
> the notification does not have  to be intrusive, some kind of 
> notification is required IMO.
I think we should only automatically download packages which have been 
properly tested by us (part of ON).  Other drivers, such as third-party 
drivers, would have to be explicitly, interactively installed.

The argument here would be: we already try to install by default (read: 
"automatically") the drivers which most computers would need.  Here, we 
install even more drivers which are needed by specific systems.  We are 
also doing this in a safe, responsible way.

    Thanks,
    Jack
>
> -Sanjay
>
>> Dave
>
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