Jeremy:

Thank you, so very much, for your answer; especially it's encouraging 
tone. I am working through trying to setup a development environment, so I 
can create that blog tutorial.

I guess the heart of my question is whether the TreeBehavior should be a 
deciding factor (given that I've already got a database designed in a way 
that it seems to support) -- i.e., is that kind of tree support, using 
Nested Sets, relatively unique to CakePHP. I don't know whether Zend comes 
with this kind of "out-of-the-box" support.

Again, Thank you!

Kevin 

On Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:22:50 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin
>
> The 'what is the best framework' debate often surfaces here, and I am yet 
> to see a compelling answer. It all comes down to what you feel comfortable 
> with, making a choice and getting stuck in. Making any choice is preferable 
> to pontificating. The Tree behaviour is certainly good; whether it's a 
> deciding factor is hard to call. I would say that - as is probably the case 
> with any framework or methodology - there is a pretty steep learning curve 
> with Cake, but that 'ah-ha!' moment comes fairly soon.It might be tougher 
> for you with no PHP knowledge, but then I had none when I picked it up. 
> Both PHP and Cake are very straightforward once you get to grips with the 
> basics, although of course it gets tougher once you decide to go off piste 
> or stretch the boundaries. This forum is on the whole, a really friendly 
> and useful resource and we are used to getting new folk such as yourself up 
> and running. The Cake site also has a couple of very good tutorials; I 
> would urge you to give them a go and follow them carefully. Many people 
> jump bits and get lost, so come here for help. They are generally fairly 
> robustly chastised and sent back to the classroom. RTFM, as they say. But 
> so long as you are honest, try and help yourself and follow the good advice 
> you are given, you won't regret choosing Cake.
>
> Jeremy Burns
> Class Outfit
>
> http://www.classoutfit.com 
>
> On 5 Apr 2012, at 15:54:47, Kevin Mitchell wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> Thank you for letting me intrude on your time and presume on your 
> expertise. I do appreciate your help in answering the following question.
>
> Although I've done quite a bit of website development in the past with ASP 
> and ColdFusion; recently with Drupal. I am new to PHP development and 
> certainly to working with a PHP Framework -- yet, I am committed to 
> learning, even at 60 years old! I'm trying to decide which direction to go 
> re: a Framework; I obviously, at this age, am not heading into a career in 
> PHP programming. I just want to build a tool to help myself and others 
> manage my MySQL database.
>
> I was investigating the Zend Framework. It seems a little intimidating, 
> but I'm willing. What attracted me to CakePHP was what I read about it 
> being relatively "easy" to learn and, especially, when I saw that that it's 
> TreeBehavior was using a MPTT / Nested Sets database. I have been working 
> on an extensive hierarchical database (a theological and biblical a 
> curriculum, with the biblical data including Hebrew and Greek fields for 
> individual sentences, clauses).
>
> So, my question, do you think the fact that CakePHP supports / uses this 
> MPTT logic is a fairly compelling reason for choosing the CakePHP framework 
> -- along with my being relatively new to PHP programming? Is there another 
> approach you might recommend?
>
> I do appreciate your time in answering this: I have been spinning my 
> wheels for weeks trying to decide what framework I should make a commitment 
> to begin with.
>
> Kevin
> ncBc, Associate Pastor
> BcResources.net
>
>

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