Thank you Randy! Surely I'll take a look on these suggestions. On Jun 6, 3:46 pm, randy <ses...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Bruno, > > I can answer some of these with some of my experience. I don't have much > experience in Rails but I try to keep up with what's happening in that camp. > > Packages: Personally, for plugins and libs, I use git submodules. There are > pitfalls there, but it works and since I'm the only one that owns the code, > I just work through them. > > Migrations: I believe Cake supports migrations but have not used them much. > I believe it works similar to Rails. > > Automated Deploys: I've read that people use Cap for PHP deployments. Cap > seems pretty flexible and can be used outside the Rails domain. There's > also things like ant and Phing but haven't looked into this just yet (but > seriously need to) > > Asset Compression: Yes. Via plugin written Mark Story > (https://github.com/markstory/asset_compress) It works pretty well and > supports CDNs. Also supports things like coffee script and lesscss. > > Workers, etc: Cake has a Task/Shell framework that allows you create, well, > tasks and shell programs you can run from cron or wherever. Beyond that, > you can add event handlers/listeners to respond to custom events in Cake's > Event system (http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/core-libraries/events.html) > which is new in 2.1. Then there's things like Gearman and Beanstalkd > (neither of which I have exposure to but the concept sounds interesting) > > Skipping some points... Testing: PHPUnit is the framework used by CakePHP > 2+http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/development/testing.html > > Like you said, there's many ways to skin a cat, but these are some off the > top of my head. > > Cheers! > randy > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Bruno Dias <bruno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi guys. My intention is not to make comparisons or discuss which > > framework is better. I know the power from both CakePHP and Rails. I'm > > sure that there's a way to do similar things in both of them. > > > So, this is the situation: in Rails framework, I'm used to do > > somethings that I'd like to do on CakePHP (some of them I haven't > > found on the documentation). > > > They are: > > > - Package management > > In Rails, I have the "Gemfile" file, where I write the version of each > > "gem" used in the application. If I want to upgrade or downgrade, I > > change the version and run the "bundle update" command. How do you > > update plugins? Do you use tools like GIT to checkout each one to > > newer versions? > > > - Migrations > > When I need to change the database, I create a empty "migration" file > > through the console command "rails generate migration". Then, in the > > generated file, I add the changes, like > > "rename_column :users, :address, :location". After that, I run "rake > > db:migrate" and the database is migrated. How to do that on CakePHP? > > > - Automated Deployment > > Deployment in Rails can be made automated using the "Capistrano" ruby > > gem. Basically, I run "cap production deploy" in the command line. > > Then, based on the instructions on the "deploy.rb" file, it logs into > > the server(s), clone the newest version of the code from the git > > repository, and backups the current release, so I can rollback. It > > also can create symlinks for "shared" folders (like user uploads), > > recompile the assets, run pending migrations, install new > > dependencies, restart some server processes, restart the application > > itself, and can execute other command line tasks. Is there something > > similar on CakePHP? > > > - Assets compression > > In Rails, when I'm in production mode, the CSS and JS assets are > > automatically compiled into single files, and regenerated after each > > deployment. That's a native feature in Rails 3.1+. Is that possible on > > CakePHP? > > > - Workers and Background Jobs > > Rails can use a gem called "delayed_job" to enqueue tasks to be > > executed in background by "workers", like sending an e-mail after user > > signup, for example. How do you do that? > > > - Namespaces for controllers > > If I want to create an admin interface, or a web service (using the > > "api" namespace, for example), or a "mobile" namespace, I just create > > the respective folders on the "controllers" folder. Then, I put the > > controllers there and create the routes to access them. What's the > > best way to do that on Cake? > > > - Access model methods from view > > It seems that CakePHP return an associative array when I grab data > > from the database, and not the true "objects". So, I can not access > > the model methods. > > Let's suppose my UserModel class provides a method called "age" that > > calculates the user current age based on his birthday. In Rails, I > > could do this on the view: <%= @user.age %>. I need to create a view > > helper for doing that on Cake? Like <?php $helpers- > > >calc_user_age($user); ?> (or something like that) ? > > Another situation: Let's suppose I want to get the last comment from a > > user, and within the comment, insert a link to the related post using > > the post title. > > In Rails I would do something like @user.comments.last.post.title to > > get the post title. How could I do that in Cake, without using that > > "recursive=3" feature that gets lots of unnecessary data? > > > - Chaining model scopes > > Let's suppose I have a model called Post. In Rails, I can create > > scopes on models and mix them the way I want. > > If I want to the get the "5 last published posts from the category > > Programming ordered by the most accessed", for example, I would call > > them this way: > > "Post.published.from_category("programming").most_accessed.limit(5)". > > If I want only the draft posts ordered by recent, integrated with > > pagination, I would call "Post.drafts.recent.page(2)". > > What is the best way to create and chain scopes on CakePHP? Build > > dynamically an array of conditions and send it as the parameter for > > "find"? > > > - Tests > > What are the testing tools adopted by the CakePHP community? I need to > > test the models and its methods, test the controllers and its > > responses and variables, and test the views content (also Javascript > > interaction), create fixtures, etc. I also would know if there is a > > way to create something like autotest, that run the tests after file > > saves. > > > Well, basically these are the points. Sorry for the long post, and for > > my error-prone and redundant english (i'm not a native speaker). Hope > > we can have a good conversation. Thank you! > > > -- > > Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials > >http://tv.cakephp.org > > Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help > > others with their CakePHP related questions. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
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