lowpass, thats it. the problem is that FormHelper fetches the model data
inside the view. I don't know why this is the case, but as said, I managed
to solve the problem but I don't think it should be like that. it will be
interesting for the Cake developers to know however.

regards,
Mohammad


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:41 PM, lowpass <zijn.digi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I see the problem. It's not that Mohammad is explicitly
> querying the DB from the View, but that FormHelper is doing so behind
> the scenes. It fetches the model's schema. In this case the DB is
> unavailable and it's not being handled well.
>
> It's odd that the error message (inside the H4$ tags) is spit out
> before even the doctype. Perhaps that's a clue as to what's going on.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Léo Willian Kölln <leoko...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Why there is some DB interaction during the View rendering? You dont
> > need to do any query "explicitly" on the View file, if you are calling
> > a method that does some DB interaction you are doing a Query during
> > the View Context.
> > If you need some data that comes from model (doesn't matter if it is
> > from DB or not), do it on the controller, setting variables to output
> > them on the View.
> >
> > Can someone confirm my conclusion?
> >
> >
> > Léo Willian Kölln
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Mohammad Naghavi <moham...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I do no query from inside the View, I just call this:
> >> $this->Form->create();
> >> inside my view. the problem is that every thing inside view before this
> line
> >> comes as a part of the exception handling output.
> >> what I think is that because I don't call any db or model related
> actions
> >> inside the controller, the exception is thrown and caught at the point
> that
> >> form creation is triggered, where the cake tries to connect to db.
> >>
> >> anyway I managed to solve my problem using a custom error controller.
> but I
> >> think it is good for core developers to know the situation.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> MN
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:57 PM, lowpass <zijn.digi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are you making DB queries from within the View? You should be doing so
> >>> from the model or controller. Then, once the controller has all the
> >>> data it requires, it passes it to View to be rendered.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Mohammad Naghavi <moham...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> > I'm dealing with an action of a controller, in which no db
> interaction
> >>> > is
> >>> > required until it comes to rendering the view. inside the view, again
> >>> > first
> >>> > half of the view doesn't need any db interactions until a form
> creation
> >>> > is
> >>> > started somewhere in the middle. I'm preparing my app for production
> >>> > environment so I came to the point to make it clean. there I tested
> the
> >>> > situation in which DB is shut down and pointed the browser to that
> >>> > action,
> >>> > what I expected was a single internal error page, but what I got was
> a
> >>> > half
> >>> > rendered view, which was accompanied with the rendered error layout.
> >>> > something like following:
> >>> >
> >>> >     <h4 class="warning">
> >>> >         some message here
> >>> >     </h4>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
> >>> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
> >>> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
> >>> > <head>
> >>> >       <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=utf-8"
> >>> > />    <title>
> >>> >               CakePHP: the rapid development php framework:
> >>> >               Errors  </title>
> >>> >       <link href="/itbs/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" rel="icon"
> >>> > /><link
> >>> > href="/itbs/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" rel="shortcut icon"
> /><link
> >>> > rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/itbs/css/cake.generic.css"
> >>> > /></head>
> >>> > <body>
> >>> >       <div id="container">
> >>> >
> >>> > ...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > now my question is that how to remove this first part of half
> rendered
> >>> > view?
> >>> > I tried to set $this->response->body(' '); on beforeRender of the
> >>> > appController for the case that controller->name is CakeError but it
> >>> > didn't
> >>> > work, any other suggestions?
> >>> >
> >>> > regards,
> >>> > MN
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