I wasn't aware that Linkable took different types of joins.

On Tuesday, 22 July 2014 11:50:38 UTC+1, José Lorenzo wrote:
>
> Not sure why linkable is not working for you. Did you make sure to set 
> 'type' => 'INNER' in the linkable definition for that model? That will 
> filter records from the parent model according to the conditions in the 
> association.
>
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:57:14 AM UTC+2, David Yell wrote:
>>
>> *Synopsis*
>> Trying to select data from multiple related models explicitly is hard in 
>> the framework due to it's focus on always providing a left join. Even with 
>> Containable and Linkable it's not always possible, without a manual query, 
>> to select records where their related record has a condition. Such as 
>> selecting all Posts where a Tag is authored by User x. It seems odd to me 
>> that the framework should return empty related model records or, if using 
>> linkable not return all the related records. I am starting this thread to 
>> discuss solutions, tips, tricks and techniques for achieving this 
>> functionality as I do not feel that either Containable or Linkable 
>> accurately cover this use-case. It may well be that case that some more 
>> guidance is needed in the documentation for this specific type of query.
>>
>> *The problem*
>> You would like to select from primary model but only if related models 
>> conditions are met. The primary model should only be included in the result 
>> set if the related model conditions are met. With a single related model 
>> this is quite easy using Linkable. However when you start trying to achieve 
>> this across HABTM, hasManyThrough or two or three nested models the problem 
>> grows in complexity.
>>
>> A few examples, might make things clearer.
>>
>> *Hotel hasMany HotelFeature belongsTo Feature*
>> You need to select hotels which have n number of specific features. The 
>> hotel must have all of the features listed to be included in the dataset.
>>
>> *Post hasMany PostsTag belongsTo Tag belongsTo User*
>> You need to find all the posts which have tags created by a certain user.
>>
>> *Hotel belongsTo City belongsTo Province belongsTo Country*
>> You need to select all the cities in a country where there is a hotel.
>>
>> I'm sure there are some other use-cases, but these are the ones of the 
>> top of my head. As you can see it's usually selecting a primary record 
>> where a related record matches a certain condition, but where the related 
>> record is a multiple.
>>
>> *Possible solutions*
>> This is where I am unsure. My SQL-fu is weak thanks to Cake's awesome 
>> ORM. The only real thing that I can think of is either more enhancements to 
>> Containable or Linkable really. However I am not sure how to approach such 
>> a problem. I was told once in an interview that any more than five joins 
>> will impact performance in MySQL (could be fiction), so obviously there is 
>> a performance concern with highly normalised databases. Concerns which are 
>> ignored by Containable with it's multiple queries across many models - a 
>> solution which I think was devised to solve this problem.
>>
>> *Discussion*
>> The idea of the thread was to discuss potential solutions really. I 
>> wanted to air my thoughts on a problem which I have hit many times with my 
>> current project and have had to battle against. Usually using manual joins, 
>> but in most cases I end up using Containable and filtering the data in the 
>> front-end `foreach()` which isn't elegant, clever or clean.
>>
>> I'm sure this kind of issue will have been addressed with the new ORM in 
>> 3.x, but I need to find a decent solution to this problem which will be 
>> flexible enough to be beneficial to lots of different projects, and to 
>> other Cake users. We are all taught to normalise, and it makes sense to do 
>> so, but this issue keeps nagging at me and I'm finding it frustrating. I 
>> don't feel that the framework is helping me solve such a problem.
>>
>> If you read to here, thanks, have a biscuit and share your thoughts. How 
>> do you get around this issue?
>>
>

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