Yeah, that's basically my point. We have no full page cache in our site and actually very limited use of caching in general, we can serve pages under 50ms and most of them under 100.
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:54:09 PM UTC+2, Thomas von Hassel wrote: > > If you use good caching of expensive database requests, and offload static > files to a CDN there is no need to bother with full page caching for most > sites. > > Our CMS with warm caches can display a somewhat complicated page in about > 100-200 ms ... > > /thomas > > On 29 Jul 2014, at 12:22, HK <hkosm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why isn't needed? Why do I have to bother the server with more > proccessing? I have for example a (medium size) VPS with 40+ domains. Some > of them use cakePHP, and hopefully more in the future. > While each site is rather small (some with many pageviews though) all of > them are hosted on the same server. > > Moreover you can achieve less page load times which IS crucial for > visitors, SEO, etc. > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:07:01 PM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote: >> >> For those small sites, is having full page cache actually needed? I would >> guess that performance wouldn't be a big concern in those cases >> >> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:47:16 AM UTC+2, HK wrote: >>> >>> For small sites that I develop is very helpful. The need to >>> use/configure/monitor extra software like varnish is pain in the ass, >>> especially if you don't have big sites to host. >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:28:17 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote: >>>> >>>> HK why would you miss it? There will be no replacement for the cache >>>> helper. We recommend using Varnish, which provides the ESI tags. They are >>>> similar to the cache tags but they involve internally doing another >>>> request. We think this is a more robust and scalable solution than doing >>>> it >>>> in PHP. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:06:36 AM UTC+2, HK wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Too sad to hear cache helper is removed. This ESI based replacement is >>>>> it going to be in stable 3.0 version? >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 10:13:14 AM UTC+3, José Lorenzo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> CacheHelper has been removed from CakePHP. The core team feels that >>>>>> the functionality this helper provided is best handled by standalone >>>>>> servers like Varnish <http://varnish-cache.org/>. While we explored >>>>>> building a ESI based replacement for CacheHelper, there were a number of >>>>>> edge cases that would have complicated the implementation. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > -- > Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP > Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "CakePHP" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
