> I find the above statement very unfair towards cakePHP team - if we as > users are not willing to take an extra step to help out the developers > who are giving us all this awesome goodness then I would say that we > users are being utterly selfish and do not understand how friendships > work!
Well, sorry, it was not my intention to be unfair. I think that the Cake team is doing a great job each and every day and congratulate them on that. Don't get me wrong on that. But it is a bit odd that the same people who can create such great framework can neglect the presentation layer. Bakery _is_ what most of the new Cake users see after the official site, and if it's not usable, what will the newcomers think of the framework itself? On the other hand, isn't Cake created for us (users/developers)? No users - no Cake. Of course, *no Cake team - no Cake*; but I'm pretty sure that core bakers do not code all this for themselves. I would never say anything against them because that would just plain suck bigtime. I think that open source is all about sharing and _listening_ to what other people have to say, even if it is something negative. The day bakers stop doing that will be the end of Cake (or any other project for that matter). I don't know, I might be seriously wrong, I guess that's the beauty of it. :-) (I know the above paragraph will somehow be misinterpreted as bashing and that I will regret for posting it) Sorry for the off-topic. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---