"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads
to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

Not that I'm hinting anything :D


On May 30, 12:13 am, "Chris Hartjes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The problem is that it's the same even if debug is off .
> > The difference is smaller but Cake 1.1 seems faster than Cake 1.2
>
> Ah, you crazy kids and your concerns about the speed of Cake.  Back in
> my day, we looked at all factors of an application before we started
> blaming the code, since the database would inevitably be the
> bottleneck unless we had written really shitty code or were actually
> doing computationally-intensive work.
>
> I think the additional features of 1.2 are what make it worth
> upgrading from 1.1, and I hate to burst anyone's ego but I doubt your
> application will get so much traffic that any alleged speed decrease
> from Cake 1.2 will make a difference.  Good coding practices go a long
> way towards ensuring application speed.
>
> Performance testing and benchmarking is an art in itself and unless
> you use tools specifically dedicated towards those  ends (like Xdebug
> or Apache Benchmark or Siege ) you are just making shit up.
>
> Have I used these tools on Cake?  No.  Why? Because I don't care about
> CakePHP's speed.  For 99.999% of those who use CakePHP, it is
> MTFEIYFTR (More Than Fast Enough If You Follow The Rules).  For the
> other .001%, either change your code or go with a non-Cake solution.
>
> This is the "Twitter sucks because of Rails" fallacy.  Twitter sucks
> because they built a messaging system using tools for building a
> content management system.
>
> So, to get back to your initial question from the beginning of the thread:
>
> Upgrade to 1.2 because it is light-years ahead of 1.1 in available features.
>
> Now get off my lawn!
>
> --
> Chris Hartjes
> Internet Loudmouth
> Motto for 2008: "Moving from herding elephants to handling snakes..."
> @TheKeyBoard:http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard
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