OK, things are looking good on this end, I'm OK to tag.

Joe

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote:

> We're still running tests on the Android side of things.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Steven Gill <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> Are we still running tests on 1.5 or are we almost ready to ship?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Simon MacDonald
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah, I replied to the wrong mail in the thread. I was trying to tell
>> > Libby to pickup the code form the Apache location to continue her
>> > testing.
>> >
>> > Simon Mac Donald
>> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > I was asking about cordova-js, and yes we do have it.
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Simon MacDonald
>> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Probably best to grab the lastest code from:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-android.git;a=summary
>> > >>
>> > >> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > I managed to fix the Media API bug in callback-js.  Since Android
>> is
>> > >> using
>> > >> > the cordova-js, we need to make sure changes to that make it into
>> > there.
>> > >> >  Do we have a repo for it yet on Apache?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> We did find issues with the Capture API, but the Camera API on
>> Mobile
>> > >> Spec
>> > >> >> is working properly.  It does appear in MobileSpec that the Audio
>> is
>> > now
>> > >> >> not working, and I'll have to investigate it further.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Joe
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin <
>> > >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> It's a demo app I wrote for AppLaud. The 4 APIs showing issues
>> > >> >>> are implemented very closely, if not exactly, to the 1.4.1 docs.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I suppose there could be errors in the way I've written the JS,
>> but
>> > >> >>> it's odd that all API examples run without issues on 1.4.1. Not
>> sure
>> > >> >>> if there are changes to the JS API in 1.5 that I'm not aware of.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Libby
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > Where did this example app come from? I'm noticing that there's
>> > >> errors
>> > >> >>> with
>> > >> >>> > DATA_URL vs DATA_URI on the Camera demo that we're not having
>> with
>> > >> >>> > Mobile-Spec.  Also, it appears that nothing is coming back on
>> the
>> > >> >>> Capture
>> > >> >>> > API.  It looks like most of these are
>> readerGotFileEntryJavascript
>> > >> >>> errors,
>> > >> >>> > since I haven't
>> > >> >>> > seen anything show a stack trace yet.
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin <
>> > >> >>> > [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > > wrote:
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> > > Okay, thanks.
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > I am still seeing the same problems. BUT - as I am using
>> AppLaud
>> > >> >>> > > plugin.. if there some deep changes to build that we don't
>> yet
>> > know
>> > >> >>> > > about.. there's no need to track these issues here.
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > I can do a project clean from Eclipse, and build is auto..
>> but
>> > ant
>> > >> >>> clean
>> > >> >>> > > from cmd line complains about no build.xml file.
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > If you still think these issues could be 'real', I used the
>> > >> attached
>> > >> >>> www/
>> > >> >>> > > to test on Droid 2.2.3 and Galaxy Tab 3.1:
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > Camera - Take a Picture or Select - fails
>> > >> >>> > > Capture - any - fails
>> > >> >>> > > Media - Play: duration wrong, can't Pause or Stop (record
>> works)
>> > >> >>> > > File - Create > Write > Read (read fails on Android 3.1 only)
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > I can flesh each one out more unless my env seems too
>> different.
>> > >> The
>> > >> >>> > > provided code works on 1.4.1.
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > Libby
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Joe Bowser <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > >> >>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> ant clean is critically important.  That burnt us more than
>> a
>> > few
>> > >> >>> times
>> > >> >>> > >> when we were testing here yesterday.
>> > >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Simon MacDonald <
>> > >> >>> > >> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > Make sure you do an "ant clean" of your workspace. If
>> you've
>> > >> built
>> > >> >>> > >> > cleanly and are still running into problems let us know
>> what
>> > you
>> > >> >>> see.
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin
>> > >> >>> > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > > Simon - I'm seeing regression using the latest:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > > incubator-cordova-android-21b7346.tar.gz
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > > I don't know if I should be updating my code from what I
>> > >> >>> > >> > > used from 1.4.1 phonegap docs - ? Did edge docs online
>> > change?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > > Problems: Camera, Capture, Media, File:Read.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > > Libby
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Simon MacDonald <
>> > >> >>> > >> > [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> Okay, I've just committed fixes that take care of the
>> last
>> > >> two
>> > >> >>> pain
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> points. Also, I see that Joe's reverted his changes so
>> we
>> > >> >>> should go
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> full steam ahead doing regression testing on Android to
>> > see
>> > >> if
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> anything is broken. If we can't find any breakages
>> we'll
>> > be
>> > >> all
>> > >> >>> set
>> > >> >>> > >> to
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> tag 1.5.0 on Android.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Filip Maj <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > >> >>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> > Ping the dev list when you get there Simon, then Joe
>> > and me
>> > >> >>> and
>> > >> >>> > >> > whomever
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> > else wants to join the fun can also run through
>> tests on
>> > >> our
>> > >> >>> end.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> > On 2/29/12 8:46 AM, "Simon MacDonald" <
>> > >> >>> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>We may be able to tag 1.5 today. There are two more
>> > things
>> > >> >>> that
>> > >> >>> > >> should
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>be changed before 1.5 goes out:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>1) Revert the change of the PERSISTENT filesystem now
>> > >> >>> defaulting
>> > >> >>> > to
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>the internal storage. We'll go back to the old
>> > >> implementation
>> > >> >>> for
>> > >> >>> > >> this
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>release and have a larger discussion on this issue
>> for a
>> > >> >>> future
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>release.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>2) FileSystem.js creates a DirectoryEntry with the
>> wrong
>> > >> name.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>I expect I'll be able to get both of those changes in
>> > >> today.
>> > >> >>> > Then I
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>want to run through the regression tests one more
>> time
>> > to
>> > >> make
>> > >> >>> > >> sure I
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>haven't broken anything. Once I've completed that
>> I'll
>> > tag
>> > >> and
>> > >> >>> > let
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>everyone know.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>Sound good?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Steve Gill <
>> > >> >>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> Hey guys.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> How do we feel about tagging 1.5 today?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> Simon, do you still feel like android isn't ready?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> How about other repos?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> -Steve
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Simon MacDonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> Yeah, Android is not ready. I've found another bug
>> > where
>> > >> >>> you
>> > >> >>> > >> cannot
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>play
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> audio using the Media class. I will post up a
>> > >> description
>> > >> >>> of
>> > >> >>> > >> what
>> > >> >>> > >> > is
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>going
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> on in another thread.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> I'm sorry to be the old curmudgeon but I don't
>> think
>> > >> that
>> > >> >>> > >> Android
>> > >> >>> > >> > is
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>ready
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> to be tagged 1.5.0 and released quite yet.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Steven Gill <
>> > >> >>> > >> > [email protected]>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> Sorry, for some reason I missed the last half of
>> > this
>> > >> >>> thread.
>> > >> >>> > >> The
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>plan in
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> my mind was to make sure every platform had
>> 1.5.0rc
>> > >> tagged
>> > >> >>> > >> friday
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>(today
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> now) and do the final release tomorrow/Wed. If
>> more
>> > >> >>> > discussion
>> > >> >>> > >> is
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>needed,
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> please continue.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> -Steve
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Steve Gill <
>> > >> >>> > >> > [email protected]>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> Pulling it together today. Release this Wed Feb
>> > 29th.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> Sound good to everyone?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> -Steve
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Simon MacDonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>><[email protected]>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Wait, when are we supposed to be releasing 1.5?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steven Gill
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>><[email protected]>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> I haven't pulled the release candidate
>> together
>> > >> yet, so
>> > >> >>> > feel
>> > >> >>> > >> > free
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>to
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> retag.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> -Steve
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Becky
>> Gibson <
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Has anything been done with the build?  I
>> would
>> > >> like
>> > >> >>> to
>> > >> >>> > add
>> > >> >>> > >> > the
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> <type>Entry.toURL() api and deprecate
>> to.URI()
>> > into
>> > >> >>> the
>> > >> >>> > >> > release
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> candidate.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Is ready to go, just need to retag if this
>> > change
>> > >> is
>> > >> >>> to
>> > >> >>> > go
>> > >> >>> > >> in.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> -becky
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Becky
>> Gibson <
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> iOS is tagged for 1.5.0rc1
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Simon
>> > MacDonald
>> > >> <
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> One test case was using escapeURL when it
>> > should
>> > >> >>> have
>> > >> >>> > >> used
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> escapeURI
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> so
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> fixed it and checked it in. Also, in
>> common-js
>> > >> there
>> > >> >>> > was
>> > >> >>> > >> a
>> > >> >>> > >> > bug
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>in
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> the
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> readEntries method where it was referencing
>> > >> >>> > this.fullPath
>> > >> >>> > >> > when
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>it
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> should
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> have been this.path. I fixed that as well.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've regenerated the cordova.android.js
>> file
>> > and
>> > >> >>> > checked
>> > >> >>> > >> it
>> > >> >>> > >> > in
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> along
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> with
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> version bump for Android to 1.5.0rc1.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Joe
>> Bowser <
>> > >> >>> > >> > [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which test case?
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Simon
>> > >> MacDonald <
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not be tagging Android today.
>> There
>> > are
>> > >> a
>> > >> >>> few
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>previously
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> passing
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> test cases in mobile-spec that are now
>> > failing.
>> > >> >>> Will
>> > >> >>> > >> tag
>> > >> >>> > >> > once
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> problem
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is resolved.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Steve
>> Gill
>> > <
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets tag 1.5.0rc1 today. Post here once
>> > your
>> > >> >>> repo is
>> > >> >>> > >> > tagged.
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Steve
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Brian
>> LeRoux <
>> > >> >>> > [email protected]
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes from call this am
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - aim to release 1.5 on tues
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cordova js unlikely for wp, ios,
>> > blackberry
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cordova rename from phonegap on track
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - coho release tool now does gpg
>> signing:
>> > >> need
>> > >> >>> > input
>> > >> >>> > >> > from
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> mentors
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutting official apache release
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - plugins are breaking: create a wiki
>> page
>> > >> about
>> > >> >>> > >> > updating
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> ---but
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins have bigger problems which we
>> aim
>> > to
>> > >> >>> > address
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sometime
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> between
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and 2.x
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >> >
>> > >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> > >
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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