+1 doing the same on my end On 3/1/12 10:46 AM, "Simon MacDonald" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm testing with you www now to see if I can reproduce the issues. > >Simon Mac Donald >http://hi.im/simonmacdonald > > > >On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin ><[email protected]> wrote: >> Didn't find a thread for these issues specifically: >> >> Testing with: >> >>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-android.git;a >>=summary >> master at macdonst's latest checkin today >> >> Test: my api demo app, media plays mp3 via url >> >> Media: Can access and play mp3, BUT current position always -1 ? , can't >> pause or stop. >> Live Record/Playback: still OK >> >> File: Samsung Galaxy Tab 3.1 ONLY (Droid 2.2.3 ok): Create and Write: >>OK, >> Read: DOES NOT read file contents (adb flaky - no more data to provide >>:( >> >> Camera: same issue with undefined, possibly due to navigator.camera not >> getting init'd by deviceready fire? >> >> So - same results I saw yesterday with these 3 apis. >> >> Libby >> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Simon MacDonald >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I replied to the wrong mail in the thread. I was trying to tell >>> Libby to pickup the code form the Apache location to continue her >>> testing. >>> >>> Simon Mac Donald >>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I was asking about cordova-js, and yes we do have it. >>> > >>> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Simon MacDonald >>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >>> > >>> >> Probably best to grab the lastest code from: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-android.git; >>>a=summary >>> >> >>> >> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> >>>wrote: >>> >> > I managed to fix the Media API bug in callback-js. Since Android >>>is >>> >> using >>> >> > the cordova-js, we need to make sure changes to that make it into >>> there. >>> >> > Do we have a repo for it yet on Apache? >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> We did find issues with the Capture API, but the Camera API on >>>Mobile >>> >> Spec >>> >> >> is working properly. It does appear in MobileSpec that the >>>Audio is >>> now >>> >> >> not working, and I'll have to investigate it further. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Joe >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin < >>> >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> It's a demo app I wrote for AppLaud. The 4 APIs showing issues >>> >> >>> are implemented very closely, if not exactly, to the 1.4.1 docs. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I suppose there could be errors in the way I've written the JS, >>>but >>> >> >>> it's odd that all API examples run without issues on 1.4.1. Not >>>sure >>> >> >>> if there are changes to the JS API in 1.5 that I'm not aware of. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Libby >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> > Where did this example app come from? I'm noticing that >>>there's >>> >> errors >>> >> >>> with >>> >> >>> > DATA_URL vs DATA_URI on the Camera demo that we're not having >>>with >>> >> >>> > Mobile-Spec. Also, it appears that nothing is coming back on >>>the >>> >> >>> Capture >>> >> >>> > API. It looks like most of these are >>>readerGotFileEntryJavascript >>> >> >>> errors, >>> >> >>> > since I haven't >>> >> >>> > seen anything show a stack trace yet. >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin < >>> >> >>> > [email protected] >>> >> >>> > > wrote: >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > > Okay, thanks. >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > I am still seeing the same problems. BUT - as I am using >>>AppLaud >>> >> >>> > > plugin.. if there some deep changes to build that we don't >>>yet >>> know >>> >> >>> > > about.. there's no need to track these issues here. >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > I can do a project clean from Eclipse, and build is auto.. >>>but >>> ant >>> >> >>> clean >>> >> >>> > > from cmd line complains about no build.xml file. >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > If you still think these issues could be 'real', I used the >>> >> attached >>> >> >>> www/ >>> >> >>> > > to test on Droid 2.2.3 and Galaxy Tab 3.1: >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > Camera - Take a Picture or Select - fails >>> >> >>> > > Capture - any - fails >>> >> >>> > > Media - Play: duration wrong, can't Pause or Stop (record >>>works) >>> >> >>> > > File - Create > Write > Read (read fails on Android 3.1 >>>only) >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > I can flesh each one out more unless my env seems too >>>different. >>> >> The >>> >> >>> > > provided code works on 1.4.1. >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > Libby >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Joe Bowser >>><[email protected] >>> > >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > >> ant clean is critically important. That burnt us more >>>than a >>> few >>> >> >>> times >>> >> >>> > >> when we were testing here yesterday. >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Simon MacDonald < >>> >> >>> > >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > Make sure you do an "ant clean" of your workspace. If >>>you've >>> >> built >>> >> >>> > >> > cleanly and are still running into problems let us know >>>what >>> you >>> >> >>> see. >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Elizabeth Baldwin >>> >> >>> > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > > Simon - I'm seeing regression using the latest: >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > > incubator-cordova-android-21b7346.tar.gz >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > > I don't know if I should be updating my code from what >>>I >>> >> >>> > >> > > used from 1.4.1 phonegap docs - ? Did edge docs online >>> change? >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > > Problems: Camera, Capture, Media, File:Read. >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > > Libby >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Simon MacDonald < >>> >> >>> > >> > [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> Okay, I've just committed fixes that take care of the >>>last >>> >> two >>> >> >>> pain >>> >> >>> > >> > >> points. Also, I see that Joe's reverted his changes >>>so we >>> >> >>> should go >>> >> >>> > >> > >> full steam ahead doing regression testing on Android >>>to >>> see >>> >> if >>> >> >>> > >> > >> anything is broken. If we can't find any breakages >>>we'll >>> be >>> >> all >>> >> >>> set >>> >> >>> > >> to >>> >> >>> > >> > >> tag 1.5.0 on Android. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Filip Maj < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > Ping the dev list when you get there Simon, then Joe >>> and me >>> >> >>> and >>> >> >>> > >> > whomever >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > else wants to join the fun can also run through >>>tests on >>> >> our >>> >> >>> end. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > On 2/29/12 8:46 AM, "Simon MacDonald" < >>> >> >>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > >> > wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>We may be able to tag 1.5 today. There are two more >>> things >>> >> >>> that >>> >> >>> > >> should >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>be changed before 1.5 goes out: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>1) Revert the change of the PERSISTENT filesystem >>>now >>> >> >>> defaulting >>> >> >>> > to >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>the internal storage. We'll go back to the old >>> >> implementation >>> >> >>> for >>> >> >>> > >> this >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>release and have a larger discussion on this issue >>>for a >>> >> >>> future >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>release. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>2) FileSystem.js creates a DirectoryEntry with the >>>wrong >>> >> name. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>I expect I'll be able to get both of those changes >>>in >>> >> today. >>> >> >>> > Then I >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>want to run through the regression tests one more >>>time >>> to >>> >> make >>> >> >>> > >> sure I >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>haven't broken anything. Once I've completed that >>>I'll >>> tag >>> >> and >>> >> >>> > let >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>everyone know. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>Sound good? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Steve Gill < >>> >> >>> > >> [email protected]> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> Hey guys. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> How do we feel about tagging 1.5 today? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> Simon, do you still feel like android isn't ready? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> How about other repos? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> -Steve >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Simon MacDonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>><[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> Yeah, Android is not ready. I've found another >>>bug >>> where >>> >> >>> you >>> >> >>> > >> cannot >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>play >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> audio using the Media class. I will post up a >>> >> description >>> >> >>> of >>> >> >>> > >> what >>> >> >>> > >> > is >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>going >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> on in another thread. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> I'm sorry to be the old curmudgeon but I don't >>>think >>> >> that >>> >> >>> > >> Android >>> >> >>> > >> > is >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>ready >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> to be tagged 1.5.0 and released quite yet. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Steven Gill < >>> >> >>> > >> > [email protected]> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> Sorry, for some reason I missed the last half of >>> this >>> >> >>> thread. >>> >> >>> > >> The >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>plan in >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> my mind was to make sure every platform had >>>1.5.0rc >>> >> tagged >>> >> >>> > >> friday >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>(today >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> now) and do the final release tomorrow/Wed. If >>>more >>> >> >>> > discussion >>> >> >>> > >> is >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>needed, >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> please continue. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> -Steve >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Steve Gill < >>> >> >>> > >> > [email protected]> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> Pulling it together today. Release this Wed Feb >>> 29th. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> Sound good to everyone? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> -Steve >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Simon MacDonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>><[email protected]> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Wait, when are we supposed to be releasing >>>1.5? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Steven Gill >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>><[email protected]> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> I haven't pulled the release candidate >>>together >>> >> yet, so >>> >> >>> > feel >>> >> >>> > >> > free >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>to >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> retag. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> -Steve >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Becky >>>Gibson < >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Has anything been done with the build? I >>>would >>> >> like >>> >> >>> to >>> >> >>> > add >>> >> >>> > >> > the >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> <type>Entry.toURL() api and deprecate >>>to.URI() >>> into >>> >> >>> the >>> >> >>> > >> > release >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> candidate. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> Is ready to go, just need to retag if this >>> change >>> >> is >>> >> >>> to >>> >> >>> > go >>> >> >>> > >> in. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> -becky >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Becky >>>Gibson < >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> iOS is tagged for 1.5.0rc1 >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Simon >>> MacDonald >>> >> < >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> One test case was using escapeURL when it >>> should >>> >> >>> have >>> >> >>> > >> used >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> escapeURI >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> so >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> fixed it and checked it in. Also, in >>>common-js >>> >> there >>> >> >>> > was >>> >> >>> > >> a >>> >> >>> > >> > bug >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>in >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> the >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> readEntries method where it was >>>referencing >>> >> >>> > this.fullPath >>> >> >>> > >> > when >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>it >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> should >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> have been this.path. I fixed that as well. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've regenerated the cordova.android.js >>>file >>> and >>> >> >>> > checked >>> >> >>> > >> it >>> >> >>> > >> > in >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> along >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> with >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> version bump for Android to 1.5.0rc1. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Joe >>>Bowser < >>> >> >>> > >> > [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which test case? >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Simon >>> >> MacDonald < >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not be tagging Android today. >>>There >>> are >>> >> a >>> >> >>> few >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>previously >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> passing >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> test cases in mobile-spec that are now >>> failing. >>> >> >>> Will >>> >> >>> > >> tag >>> >> >>> > >> > once >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> problem >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is resolved. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Steve >>>Gill >>> < >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets tag 1.5.0rc1 today. Post here once >>> your >>> >> >>> repo is >>> >> >>> > >> > tagged. >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Steve >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Brian >>>LeRoux < >>> >> >>> > [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> wrote: >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes from call this am >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - aim to release 1.5 on tues >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cordova js unlikely for wp, ios, >>> blackberry >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cordova rename from phonegap on >>>track >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - coho release tool now does gpg >>>signing: >>> >> need >>> >> >>> > input >>> >> >>> > >> > from >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> mentors >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> on >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutting official apache release >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - plugins are breaking: create a wiki >>>page >>> >> about >>> >> >>> > >> > updating >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> ---but >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins have bigger problems which we >>>aim >>> to >>> >> >>> > address >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sometime >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> between >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and 2.x >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>>>> >>> >> >>> > >> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> > >> > >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>>
