*I* would consider it non-creative. Don't get me wrong: I understand your point and your concern (that it would turn users away). This is a good concern to have. I just don't think it would.
The compromise here would be to a) try to remove it altogether under the non-creative grounds or b) document/make obvious that users can relicense the example/template code once generated. On 6/4/12 6:07 PM, "Jesse" <[email protected]> wrote: >That is an example, which makes sense to work that way. >A template is a logical starting point for developing an app, which is >what >I am talking about. >To me, this is like hitting command+n in textmate and having it spit out a >60 lines textmate header jargon in every new file it creates. > >I will however chill for now, and we can discuss later. > >Brian and Shaz both replied before I could write this, I will continue ... > >Brian, if it is acceptable, can we simply add a comment informing the end >developer that they are free to remove the license header ( aka >re-license ) > >Can we consider this file non creative ? > >On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Here's some sample code that is shipped with Cassandra: >> >> >>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=blob;f=examples >>/c >> >>lient_only/src/ClientOnlyExample.java;h=fa69965fb993ecfe11ce1b4dd9faf86c7 >>76 >> 41713;hb=HEAD >> >> >> Note the same license header at the top. >> >> Same situation here no? >> >> On 6/4/12 5:54 PM, "Filip Maj" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >I don't see the issue here. >> > >> >The example code we ship is apache-owned, so the license header should >>be >> >there. >> > >> >Why is swapping in a user's application assets into the www/ folder, >> >overwriting the example assets, for cordova projects unacceptable? Most >> >people would do this. >> > >> >Before you go making any big changes we need to discuss and address the >> >"problem" (I think it is just a misconception about how this shit >>works) >> >if you see this as an issue. I don't see how you patching only the WP7 >> >implementation to strip the license header solves the problem: the same >> >situation exists on all of our implementations. >> > >> >I'm not legal guru but this is clear-cut to me. Anyone else willing to >> >chime in? >> > >> >On 6/4/12 5:49 PM, "Jesse" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >>I will make the create tool strip the license header then ... >> >>and remove it from the template before distributing ... >> >>Both the other options are unacceptable IMO >> >> >> >>On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> There is only two alternatives then: >> >>> >> >>> 1. The user would remove the boilerplate index.html and use their >>own >> >>> 2. We don't include the index.html in a new project template >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jesse <[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > What I am saying is that every new project that is created will >> >>>include >> >>> the >> >>> > license tag, meaning that the new project is also licensed under >> >>>Apache. >> >>> > So how does a developer make an app if they aren't licensing it >>under >> >>> > Apache? They cannot use our tool now ... >> >>> > >> >>> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > To be clear: yes I think it is amusing/waste of real >> >>> > estate/ugly/shouldn't >> >>> > > be there. But most legal bs amuses/depresses me so I just go >> >>>through >> >>> the >> >>> > > motions and get it over with. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On 6/4/12 5:27 PM, "Filip Maj" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >It doesn't impose anything on projects generated with Cordova. >> >>>Simply: >> >>> > it >> >>> > > >is code we ship, therefore license is required. No drama >>around it >> >>> > really. >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >On 6/4/12 5:24 PM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <[email protected]> >> >>>wrote: >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >>That's the template used to generate new projects. >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >>Cheers, >> >>> > > >> Jesse >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >>On 2012-06-04, at 5:19 PM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >>> As the Joker would say: why so seriouss? >> >>> > > >>> This is just the boilerplate I thought. >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Jesse >><[email protected] >> > >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>>> So that means that you can only build Apache 2.0 apps with >> >>> Cordova!? >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> Seriously WTF? >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >> >>> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-wp7.git;a=b >> >>> > > >>>>l >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>ob;f=templates/full/www/index.html;h=e4e9fff95930acfc3b26b6dfcb6a9 >>>>>>>>>69 >> >>>>>>>c >> >>>>>>>2c >> >>> > > >>>>4 >> >>> > > >>>>f7bed;hb=ac1ba7cf406f2a9789d3f8fe60a8e631fa7bd39f >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Filip Maj (JIRA) >> >>><[email protected] >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>>>wrote: >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> [ >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-643?page=com.atlassian.jira.pl >> >>> > > >>>>u >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>gin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=132890 >>>>>>>>>05 >> >>>>>>># >> >>>>>>>co >> >>> > > >>>>m >> >>> > > >>>>ment-13289005 >> >>> > > >>>> ] >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> Filip Maj commented on CB-643: >> >>> > > >>>>> ------------------------------ >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> Pushed a branch of WP7 that has all appropriate license >> >>>headers >> >>> > here: >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >> >>> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-wp7.git;a=s >> >>> > > >>>>h >> >>> > > >>>>ortlog;h=refs/heads/license >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> Will merge once it is confirmed that this branch is still >> >>> > functional. >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>>> Use the Apache RAT (Release Audit Tool) on sources, add >> >>>Apache >> >>> > > >>>>>>License >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>-- >> >>>>>>>>>- >> >>>>>>>>>-- >> >>> > > >>>>>>- >> >>> > > >>>>>>- >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>>> Key: CB-643 >> >>> > > >>>>>> URL: >> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-643 >> >>> > > >>>>>> Project: Apache Cordova >> >>> > > >>>>>> Issue Type: Sub-task >> >>> > > >>>>>> Components: WP7 >> >>> > > >>>>>> Reporter: Shazron Abdullah >> >>> > > >>>>>> Assignee: Jesse MacFadyen >> >>> > > >>>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>>> From Jukka Zitting, mentor: >> >>> > > >>>>>> Unless you've already encountered, Release Audit Tool >>(RAT) >> >>>is a >> >>> > > >>>>>> simple program developed at >> http://incubator.apache.org/rat/ >> >>>to >> >>> > > help >> >>> > > >>>>>> audit Apache releases. To use it, download the binaries >>and >> >>>run >> >>> > > >>>>>>"java >> >>> > > >>>>>> -jar apache-rat-0.8.jar /path/to/cordova/sources". >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> -- >> >>> > > >>>>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA. >> >>> > > >>>>> If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your >> >>>JIRA >> >>> > > >>>>> administrators: >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >> >>>>>https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.js >> >>> > > >>>>>p >> >>> > > >>>>>a >> >>> > > >>>>> For more information on JIRA, see: >> >>> > > >>>> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > >>>> -- >> >>> > > >>>> @purplecabbage >> >>> > > >>>> risingj.com >> >>> > > >>>> >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > @purplecabbage >> >>> > risingj.com >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>@purplecabbage >> >>risingj.com >> > >> >> > > >-- >@purplecabbage >risingj.com
