You know, just a few minutes ago Alan posted a very reasonable call for
civility on this list. He specifically mentioned not assuming "that your
experiences trump their experiences." I've seen prominent callers call dances
with shadow swings, and I've seen people enjoy them. Some callers may want to
use them, some may not. And if we're trying to be civil, let's not see the
worst in others. ("Your suggestion is a subterfuge to rationalize...")
Richard
On Sep 9, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Michael Fuerst wrote:
> Richard: Your suggestion is subterfuge to rationalize the caller's doing
> something (calling a shadow swing dance) that should never be done.
>
> Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844
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> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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>
> Here's a suggestion I don't think I've seen in this discussion. If you want
> to call a dance with a shadow swing, how about save it for time when you can
> have several shorter sets, and remind couples they can join other sets when
> they reach the top or the bottom, to get an opportunity to dance with a
> bigger variety of people. (And of course remind dancers they may have the
> surprise of a new shadow.)
>
> Richard
>
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> First, a disclaimer: Some people on this listserv thing shadow swings are
>> problematic. Some don't see any issue with them. This is NOT the
>> conversation I want to have in this thread; I ask that you respond to the
>> question I'm asking and do not debate my premise--at least not in this
>> particular thread. This should help keep this thread on track and hopefully
>> reduce excess noise and go-nowhere discussions on this listserv. Thanks!
>>
>> Anyway, the actual question I wanted to ask (whew!)--
>>
>> There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to
>> be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an
>> uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate the
>> potential harms of shadow swing dances? I was considering, at the beginning
>> of the dance, having dancers identify their shadow and mentioning, "this
>> will be a shadow swing dance, so if you need to make any changes, do so now"
>> (or something like that)--haven't gotten the wording down-pat, but the idea
>> is giving dancers advance warning of a shadow swing so they can move
>> (thereby changing their shadow) if they need to. Any thoughts on this
>> method? Suggestions of others?
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Maia
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