I didn't catch the difference, Don - see clearly now: a right pull by to a left 
arm turn move is a chain to and allemande of the same person.  Yup!
Bob 



      From: Don Veino <sharedweight_...@veino.com>
 To: Robert Livingston <rlivng...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
 Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ladies Chain to Allemande Left (Was: Does this dance 
already exist?)
   
Hi Robert,
I may be totally missing the point but, in Just Because, the chain and 
allemande are with *different* people. I agree that's a common bit of 
choreography with a well established history - particularly so in squares.
In the dance I referenced (and how I interpreted - perhaps erroneously - the 
original request), the person you chain to and the person you allemande with 
are the *same* people, and the moves proceed directly from one to the other for 
more than a minor fraction (see below).
I'm happy to let go any claim to uniqueness for this approach, should it 
matter. We all just add little bits to the foundations we've inherited.
Thanks,Don
Greenfield Tornado – Becket – Don Veino 20161218
A1
Left Diagonal Slice & Take to Gent’s Side (Neighbor Swing)
[First time can be straight across Give & Take; Alternate A1 = Diagonal Circle 
Left 3/4, N Swing]A2
Ladies Chain (to P)
Partner Allemande Left 1+1/2xB1
Full Hey, Gents Pass Right to startB2
Partner Balance & SwingEnd Effects: Wait out crossed over on Left Diagonal at 
ends.(Note: as covered in my blog post on this dance, the same sequence but for 
the A2 was independently done previously by Linda Leslie as her dance 
Greenfield Storm. I modified my dance title as shown to honor hers, once I 
became aware of it.)

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Robert Livingston <rlivng...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Don..and all,
Dover, VT, in a square dance;  "Just Because"  Ted Glabach, caller:
A1  Head Ladies Chain  - BackA2  Sides...the same

B1 Allemande Left on the Corner  (8)
      come home and Swing with Your Own  (8)
B2  Take the Corner maid and we'll all Promenade  (8)       Because, just 
because  (8)
Tag  B3  Because, just because
Not a modern era dance, not in contra formation, but still in play.
Bob Livingston

      From: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight. net>
 To: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight. net> 
 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [Callers] Ladies Chain to Allemande Left (Was: Does this dance 
already exist?)
   
In case anyone might be under the assumption that I'd claimed to have invented 
the Ladies Chain or similar... :-)
My understanding of the context of the original post was looking for a modern 
era dance featuring Ladies Chain with Courtesy Turn, proceeding directly to a 
full Allemande Left with the same person. That's the sequence in my dance I 
referenced (and haven't encountered elsewhere before).
Fascinating and informative Chain history thread please continue...
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