Lauk Senachetra, Good analysis. 100% with you. Thai is a spoiled Monkey who tries to steal from Hanoi ; Cambodia. Thai provokes & messes up with Hanoi....but this time Thai has to pay a big price. In the past Thailand had a security belt to protect its border from armed forces of Khmer Rouge,Son Sann and Sihanoukist.This time is completly different situation
Thai Army has to confront with Hanoi and its to vessels : Cambodia & Laos. Maybe Burma ? The Thai-Muslim from the Southern of Thailand ? This time Uncle Sam is broke,who cannot send any troop to fight with Youn-Hanoi, but instead Uncle Sam is willing to having Hanoi as its allies to against China..... Who know ? China will chop Hanoi into pieces to control the rich oil ares of Spraly Island and others island at Southern China Sea. Uncle Sam is worry about the Middle East countries's gift $ 700 million dollars toward to Champ Community in Cambodia. Hope smart game will let Cambodia out of Hanoi's Slavery (?).....while Yuon-Hanoi has to fight with the rising up from the Montagnards, Champ ,Khmer Krom and the South Vietnamese themselves (?) The Universe moves too fast !!!!! who knows ? Cheers, Bun H. > LOK BUN HEANG > The discussion between Hun Sen and Somchai at Beijing is just the show > case of both parties to please international concerns.In fact will not > produce anything, because Thai Priminister SOmchai will be deposed by > military coup in the next couple days anyway. The military coup will > be inevitable, Gen Anupong is already alligned his soldies in Bangkok > and reshuffled some military commanders in some regiments' So the new > government will be formed from Royal palace and I certaintly believed > Gen Prem will lead this government and ex-Premiere Anan Panya will be > his deputy (Prem is pro PAD and Anan is pro Taksin ).Therefore, the > tension of border dispute between Cambodia and Thailand will remain > unsolve. On Cambodia side, military recruitment is under > way,especially the people living near the border.You must understand > when military led government in place, the relationship between Thai > and Cambodia will shift to another chapter it's not smooth as it has > been.From Thai point of views especially military segment has regarded > Cambodia is a vassal state of Vietnam, they know Hanoi controled most > Cambodian security apparatus, Thai has to deal cautiously with > Cambodia. Cambodia today is not Cambodia of SRN, Khmer Republic nor > Democratic Kampuchea.This is my personal view relating to the future > scenario of this deadly conflict, again Cambodia and Thailand wil be > economically suffering in a great deal while Vietnam is booming . > > On Oct 23, 4:48 pm, "sacravatoons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Many thanx to Lauk Senachetra. >> It's a good comment to discovery the real Facts of Siem & Khmer Monarchy >> . >> In Cambodia if we do not take care of poor & uneducated people the result >> is >> what we see today : Cambodia is ruled by the group of Pig-H-D. >> Even the King and his royal family have to lick Hun Sen's feet to >> survive. >> >> Thasink had taken care of the rural people in Thailand....I'm sure he'll >> be >> back to haunt the >> Monarchy of Thailand. >> >> Cheers, >> Bun H. >> >> >> >> > LOK BUN HEANG :Majority of Thai people respected and revered their >> > king as equal as Buddha. There is an unity among royal families, most >> > of them are well educated from Harvard, Oxford and Sorbone.These royal >> > families are rich and powerful big business, military, entertainment >> > to academia.They know how to protect to promote and to maintian its >> > institution very well, they own Thai land without this institution the >> > country of Thailand would fall apart like the old kingdom of Angkor, >> > Cambodia. This current dynasty(Chakry) is compared themself to the >> > glory reign of king Narensuon (1590-1605)who destroyed Long Vek on >> > January, 1594.The monarchy institution in Thailand is untouchable, >> > most of Thai people agreed with that, the king is sitting above >> > everybody and politically impartial which taking no side, but behind >> > the scene we do not know. Rural people mostly ethnic khmer dominated >> > area in North East is felt disfranchised from the main stream of Thai >> > society, but this guy Taksin whom parent is emmigrated from Yunan, >> > China became the Prime Minister and gave debt relief which wiped out >> > debt from these poor and unedcated North Eastern area, then he became >> > the god rescuer for these people, Taksin is very popular than other >> > Thai leaders in this era, his popular is almost equal to the king, >> > nobody can beat him, he is rich, well educated holding Ph.D from >> > America, and most popular among poor and ordinary Thai people, but his >> > enemies are royal group, educated urban Thai people, they know how >> > Taksin employing fraud political tactid luring the poor and uneducated >> > people into his political scams, but the main core element that >> > protect monarchy in Thailand which lead by Privy Council >> > PremThinsulanon whom regularly meet military leaders and receiving >> > absolute pledge from them that the soldiers are still faithful to the >> > king, this group is composed of all group of Thai people they are very >> > trustworthy to the institution.So the monarchy is very popular among >> > urban elite, educated and well off people in Thai society which is >> > constrast to Khmer most of edcated urban did not like monarchy, and >> > poor peasant loved monarchy, in Thailand poor, uneducated love Thai >> > Rak Thai party of Taksin and do not like the People Alliance organized >> > by Royal groups, you see how is different. Personally, I admired the >> > hard work of this institution to keep their kingdom alive and >> > independent not submit themself to anybody, they acted and organized >> > like the old organization of Angkor administration according to their >> > hierachy.Today Taksin is convicted by the court of Thailand and >> > imprisoned two years.Taksin rejected the verdict and accused the court >> > is politically motivated, his supporters are waiting to hear from him >> > next week live coverage via mobile TV.To see what happen to Thailand >> > next can it escape from this trouble or the end of this dynasty >> > according to fortune teller predicting that this current dynasty will >> > set to end within 300 years. >> >> > On Oct 23, 4:39 am, "sacravatoons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> >> Dec 12 2005, 01:31 PM >> >> There is no freedom of speech in a country like Thailand. I got kicked >> >> out from Thailand Forum sooo many times for posting intellectual >> >> arguments about Thailand Government and Thai Monarchy. Talking about >> >> Monarchy (any kinds of Monarchy) was just impossible on the Thai >> >> boards >> >> and it sucks like hell. However, i foolishly and accidentally got >> >> inside >> >> a Forum about Thailand that happens to be in Thailand or owns by >> >> somebody >> >> who is Thai. I just recently registered for this forum and i hope that >> >> this is not just another Thai forum owns by Thais or its government. >> >> Unfortunately, it seems as if there is no forum rule on this forum >> >> because the website of bearpit.net forum rule does not show anything >> >> and >> >> i also hope that talking about Thai politics and Monarchy or Socialism >> >> or >> >> Marxism is allowed in this forum. The style design of this forum looks >> >> exactly the same as Thailand Forum and i feared that free speech is >> >> not >> >> allowed in here. Well, let me tell you why: I was saying Thailand has >> >> characteristics of an Abosolute Monarchy Country which is a very old, >> >> regime, primitive form of government while it represents certain >> >> democratic principles/values such as free election of its >> >> sub-government >> >> or its Prime Minister. In Thailand, if you make any kinds of negative >> >> comments about Monarchy, you can end up in jail if you are Thai, or if >> >> you are a foreigner then you would be kicked out from Thailand and >> >> your >> >> visa would be invalid. Basically, Thailand is still a regime country >> >> that >> >> violates the Freedom of Speech or there is no First Ammenmend. >> >> >> (Please noted that my thread is NOT ABOUT THE KING OF THAILAND AND HIS >> >> FAMILY BUT IT IS ABOUT THAILAND HAVING ABSOLUTE MONARCHY >> >> RULES/PRINCIPLES >> >> AND ITS EFFECT ON BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS IN THAILAND.) >> >> The Anti-Monarchy Rebel >> >> Dec 12 2005, 01:40 PM >> >> Sorry for my ignorance, I forgot to mention that the transition from >> >> absolute monarchy to constitutional monarchy had not gone well in >> >> Thailand. Officialy, Thailand is a Constitutional Monarchy but it >> >> still >> >> represents Absolute Monarchy principles. Well, i don't know why. It >> >> would >> >> be better if Thailand is as Constitutional as in UK. There was no >> >> Magna >> >> Carta that the King had to sign in Thailand but in England, an English >> >> King signed it in the late Middle Age to limit the power of Monarchs. >> >> In >> >> other words, in constitutional monarchy, the Monarchs rule the country >> >> as >> >> priviledge given by his own people and not because in the name of God >> >> or >> >> not because God said so and it is not their rights. >> >> >> (I BET THAT THIS MUST BE ANOTHER THAI BOARD OR SOMETHING. I THOUGHT >> >> THAT >> >> IT WAS HOSTED BY FOREIGNERS AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RESOLD AGAIN AND >> >> AGAIN. IT IS ALSO IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE. LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS ALSO A >> >> THAI >> >> BOARD PLEASE BECAUSE I DID NOT COME HERE TO CAUSE TROUBLES TO ANY >> >> THAIS. >> >> HOW CAN THE THAIS EXPECT THAT PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET KNOWS THAT THIS >> >> FORUM IS IN THAILAND? HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THAT WE ALL KNOW THE RULES IN >> >> THAILAND? YAHOO.COM SUGGESTED ME TO COME TO THAILAND FORUM FOR POSTING >> >> THINGS ABOUT THAILAND AS WELL AS BEARPIT. IT LOOKS IDENTICLE TO >> >> THAILAND >> >> FORUM. ANOTHER THING, SOMEBODY ON THAI BOARD SUGGESTED ME TO COME TO >> >> USE >> >> BEARPIT FORUM FOR POSTING ABOUT GOVERNMENT OF THAILAND.PLEASE TELL ME >> >> THE >> >> TRUTH. THERE IS NO FORUM RULE AT ALL? I DON'T SEE ANY FORUM RULE BUT I >> >> ASSUMED THAT USING BAD WORDS IS NOT ALLOWED BUT POSTING ABOUT THAILAND >> >> IS >> >> ALLOWED...) I HOPE THAT I AM RIGHT... >> >> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >> >> SoloNav >> >> Dec 12 2005, 01:42 PM >> >> Naw! You'll fit in perfectly here. Welcome aboard. >> >> The Anti-Monarchy Rebel >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:18 PM >> >> QUOTE (SoloNav @ Dec 12 2005, 01:42 PM) >> >> Naw! You'll fit in perfectly here. Welcome aboard. >> >> >> What a warm welcome! Thankyou! >> >> John L >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:21 PM >> >> QUOTE (The Anti-Monarchy Rebel @ Dec 12 2005, 04:18 PM) >> >> What a warm welcome! Thankyou! >> >> >> I'll offer my hearty welcome as well. Stick around and enjoy the >> >> fracas. >> >> * That's why it's called the Bear Pit. >> >> >> QUOTE >> >> * fra·cas (fra'k?s, frak'?s) >> >> n. >> >> >> A noisy, disorderly fight or quarrel; a brawl. See synonyms at brawl. >> >> The Anti-Monarchy Rebel >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:32 PM >> >> QUOTE (John L @ Dec 12 2005, 02:21 PM) >> >> I'll offer my hearty welcome as well. Stick around and enjoy the >> >> fracas. >> >> * That's why it's called the Bear Pit. >> >> >> Excuse me, Bearpit Forum is a public opinion forum that contains >> >> topics >> >> about Politics and not fracas. You better re-check defenition of >> >> Bearpit >> >> im afraid. I do enjoy alot of fracas in a Free Speech World but im >> >> afraid >> >> that this is not what this forum is all about. You sounded pissed off >> >> or >> >> something and observed my thread in a bad taste as well as described >> >> it >> >> as fracas. You know what? If it sounded very FRACAS THEN GET OUT FROM >> >> THIS TOPIC. HAHA! >> >> >> OOOOOH THANKS FOR WELCOMING ME HERE BUT YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE >> >> BUDDY. >> >> SoloNav >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:38 PM >> >> QUOTE (The Anti-Monarchy Rebel @ Dec 12 2005, 02:32 PM) >> >> Excuse me, Bearpit Forum is a public opinion forum that contains >> >> topics >> >> about Politics and not fracas. You better re-check defenition of >> >> Bearpit >> >> im afraid. I do enjoy alot of fracas in a Free Speech World but im >> >> afraid >> >> that this is not what this forum is all about. You sounded pissed off >> >> or >> >> something and observed my thread in a bad taste as well as described >> >> it >> >> as fracas. You know what? If it sounded very FRACAS THEN GET OUT FROM >> >> THIS TOPIC. HAHA! >> >> >> OOOOOH THANKS FOR WELCOMING ME HERE BUT YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE >> >> BUDDY. >> >> >> ?? >> >> The Anti-Monarchy Rebel >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:41 PM >> >> QUOTE >> >> * fra·cas (fra'k?s, frak'?s) >> >> n. >> >> >> A noisy, disorderly fight or quarrel; a brawl. See synonyms at brawl. >> >> SoloNav >> >> Dec 12 2005, 02:45 PM >> >> QUOTE (The Anti-Monarchy Rebel @ Dec 12 2005, 02:41 PM) >> >> QUOTE >> >> * fra·cas (fra'k?s, frak'?s) >> >> n. >> >> >> A noisy, disorderly fight or quarrel; a brawl. See synonyms at brawl. >> >> >> Well, there are brawls here. Just check out >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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