And why? On Oct 29, 1:06 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the ones who have serious problem to face its own hideous crimes > and responsabilitiues are the yuon Vietcong itself? Guest what?!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kangaroo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: We lost the war! > > You still get it wrong. > Why can't the Cambodian people accept the fact that they are the ones > who have been destroying their own country? > Why can't the Cambodian people look at their own image before blaming > others? > Cambodians killed Cambodians in Cambodia in millions in the worse > genocide in the world history. > Cambodians suppress their own people in many ways for their own > individual gains for a very long time, > Cambodians have been turning their own people against the others by > painting some to be someone else that they are not. What is wrong with > that picture? > Is that a problem created by Vietnamese? > Eventhough it was created by Vietnamese, why are the Cambodian people > using it to destroy their own people? > Stupidity? > You judge it for yourself. > > On Oct 28, 2:12 pm, Neak Kampuchea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bophar Angkor the yuan spy. > > Why you are always discribing Khmer tupidity in the face of Yuon win- > > win strategy? I can't imagine a khmer nationalist like you like to > > tell CAMDISC readers around the world that all human being carrying > > your Khmer blood in their veins are so ignorant leaving Vietamese free > > hand of doing whatever they wanted to gain this or that in Cambodia? > > It's not like that! Khmer are not animals as you think. Purherps you > > are yourselve, Bophar Angkor, a real yuon spy. Because you make > > readers on this website see Khmer as yuon dogs. > > > On Oct 28, 11:21 am, "Bopha Angkor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Beside the evils who consent with the yuons Vietcong and want to clean > > > yuon vietcong crimes from the late genocide against Khmer people, other > > > people know that, yuons Vietcong didn’t only used Khmer and Khmer > > > territory to lead war against USA but at time the yuon Vietcong planed > > > the killing field inside Khmer territory since long ago to explode in 17 > > > april 75 till today by using the same killing tools (Khmer Vietminh or > > > Khmer rouge) composed of yuon agents and people trained and brainwashed > > > to hate Khmer and to kill Khmer for Yuons. This is nothing new in yuon > > > political perspective but a well ancestral yuon expansionist and > > > genocidal politics in its quest of new territory and natural resource > > > for its people or race. > > > > Killing is a crime, leading a mass persecutions against other group of > > > people, no matter its way or pretext, is called “crime against humanity” > > > but unfortunately many, even among intellectuals ones prefer to stand > > > with the killers and winners than to defend justice and the victims > > > because it is more easy to stand with the evils and the winners than to > > > lose with the losers. Those people no matter how high their intellectual > > > title they are not less criminals or evils than the yuons Vietcong at > > > all. > > > >http://devaraja.free.fr/Khmer-books/1khmerbook-page.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ông-thu N > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:23 AM > > > Subject: We lost the war! > > > > Cambodian–Vietnamese War > > > During the First Indochina War, when Vietnam and Cambodia allied against > > > the French, Vietnamese forces had made great use of Cambodian territory > > > in transporting weapons, supplies, and troops. This relationship lasted > > > through the Vietnam War, and even after the war, people from both > > > countries commonly crossed the border unhindered. > > > > Even before the Vietnam War had ended, the relationship between the > > > Khmer Rouge and Vietnam was strained. Clashes between Vietnamese and > > > Khmer Rouge forces began as early as 1974. The Khmer Rouge demanded that > > > the Mekong Delta area be returned to Cambodia, and that all Vietnamese > > > leave the area. The Vietnamese refused these demands since the Mekong > > > Delta had been Vietnamese territory for nearly three centuries. In > > > retaliation, thousands of Vietnamese were either executed or forced out > > > of Cambodia, and villages along the border were attacked. This led to > > > further escalation of the conflict and ultimately to the Vietnamese > > > invasion and occupation of Cambodia.. > > > > The war between Vietnam and the Khmer Rouge's Democratic Kampuchea began > > > shortly after the fall of Saigon. On May 1, 1975, a team of Khmer Rouge > > > soldiers raided Phu Quoc Island against little or no Vietnamese > > > resistance, and then executed more than five hundred Vietnamese > > > civilians on Tho Chu Island. Angered by the Khmer Rouge's aggression, > > > Hanoi launched a counter-attack that resulted in the liberation of those > > > islands by Vietnamese forces. The battle over Phu Quoc was a cause of > > > concern for the newly-established Socialist Republic of Vietnam as the > > > country was challenged by a new enemy at a time when relations with the > > > People's Republic of China began to deteriorate due to Vietnam's > > > ideological alignment with the Soviet Union. That concern was further > > > strengthened by the presence of Chinese advisors to Pol Pot's regime and > > > increasing shipments of military hardware to Kampuchea's armed forces. > > > > Following the raids on Phu Quoc and Tho Chu Islands the Khmer Rouge > > > conducted two major incursions into Vietnam. The first attack occurred > > > in April 1977, when regular units of the Khmer Rouge army advanced 10 > > > kilometres (6 mi) into Vietnam, occupying some parts of An Giang > > > Province where it massacred a large number of Vietnamese civilians. The > > > second attack was in September of the same year. This time they were > > > able to advance 150 kilometres (93 mi) into Vietnam. In retaliation, six > > > divisions of the Vietnam People's Army invaded Cambodia on December 31, > > > 1977. The Vietnamese army advanced as far as Neak Luong and later > > > withdrew, taking with them some key Khmer Rouge figures, including > > > future Prime Minister Hun Sen. The invasion was intended only as a > > > "warning" to the Khmer Rouge. The Vietnamese offered a diplomatic > > > solution to the border conflict that would require the establishment of > > > a demilitarized zone along the border, but the offer was rejected by Pol > > > Pot and fighting resumed. > > > > Meanwhile, as the fighting continued to rage in the border areas between > > > Vietnam and Kampuchea, the Khmer Rouge leadership began to purge members > > > of its own party, as well as military commanders who escaped from > > > Vietnamese forces after the short offensive in September 1977. > > > Undeterred by earlier defeats the Khmer Rouge launched another major > > > offensive into Vietnam using two regular divisions. Once again the Khmer > > > Rouge was able to occupy some townships in Vietnam, conducting clearing > > > operations that included the massacre of civilians. In one notable event > > > the town of Ba Chuc was raided by the Khmer Rouge forces; by the time it > > > was over most of Ba Chuc's inhabitants were brutally slaughtered leaving > > > only two survivors. > > > > Hanoi was now resolved to remove the threat of the Khmer Rouge > > > permanently. The Vietnamese assembled a force of 10 divisions along the > > > border with Kampuchea, with strong armour and air support they advanced > > > into Khmer Rouge-held territory on December 25, 1978. The Kampuchean > > > National United Front for National Salvation (KNUFNS), created with > > > assistance from Hanoi, also went along with the military operation. > > > > The Pol Pot regime of Democratic Kampuchea was largely supported with > > > the Peoples Republic of China, with both regimes based on closely > > > associated Maoist ideologies. The Vietnamese attack on Cambodia on > > > December 25, 1978 was followed by massive amounts of troop deployments > > > along the vast China-Vietnamese border. On the dawn of February 17, > > > 1979, the People's Liberation Army moved into Vietnamese territory, at > > > which point the Cambodian capital already had been captured by the > > > Vietnamese and the Pol Pot regime toppled (see below), reportedly > > > accusing the Vietnamese government of "revisionist" ideologies and the > > > mistreatment of ethnic Chinese living in Vietnam. The Chinese kept > > > moving into the north of Vietnam, reportedly advancing towards Hanoi at > > > a high speed though not on good terms with their supply lines. The > > > Chinese army captured Cao Bang on March 2 and Lang Son on March 4. The > > > following day, however, the Beijing regime announced that it would not > > > participate in further action moving more deeply into Vietnam, > > > apparently after meeting fierce and unexpected harsh resistance by the > > > well trained and experienced Vietnamese forces, supplied with American > > > technology left behind earlier. With the Chinese support lost after > > > Vietnamese recapitulation, Cambodia was left to the mercy of its > > > destiny. > > > > The Khmer Rouge had prepared a force of 70,000 to resist the invasion, > > > but was not able to prevent the Vietnamese from advancing to Phnom Penh, > > > which was captured on January 7, 1979. The Khmer Rouge switched to a > > > guerrilla campaign and began to attack the long and exposed line of > > > communication of the Vietnamese forces. The Vietnamese used the pretext > > > that none of their own troops were actually fighting but only supporting > > > the KNUFNS in their struggle against the brutal Khmer Rouge. This was > > > not the case: Vietnam had over 150,000 troops in Cambodia, while the > > > KNUFNS force > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
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