It means that you are ignoring the facts and cling to your own rhetorics. My friend, Some people have come out here and tell the world how glory Cambodia is, how great the people of Cambodia are etc.... Are they telling the truth? Ofcourse not. Look at the Cambodian history only in the past three decades. What have they done to their own country? They fight each other for power. They kill their own people once they get the power. Do you call the people like that great, gentle etc........? Cambodians are not victims of anything but themselves. They destroy their own country and try to blame on others like Vietnam, USA etc....... They can't take their own responsibility. That's why Vietnamese are always to be blame for anything in Cambodia. Cambodians government is running Cambodia today. Yet, they think that Vietnamese is running it. If Vietnamese is behind the current government, what are those Cambodians like Hun Sen and thouseands of others who are working for the government today?
On Oct 29, 1:27 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I frankly have no interest to read or pray the pieces of clean history wrote > by the winners, by a bunch of criminals or its sympathizers at all because it > HAS NO REGARD for the victims, their memory and for justice. If I’m brought > to read it, it is just to pick up or verify some dates > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ông-thu N > To: [email protected] ; CAMBODIA-DIGITAL -CENTER ; Earth 2008 ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; Bury Chau ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Karuna HENG ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL > PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Captain L. David Marquet ; Australian Prime Minister ; > CAMBODIAN VETERANS > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:07 PM > Subject: We lost the war! > > Cambodia and the Việt nam War > When the French were finally defeated at Điện Biên Phủ on the 8th of > May 1954 by the communist general Võ Nguyên Giáp, they withdrew, leaving a > buffer zone separating the North and South and set up elections in order to > form a government in the South. This defeat set the stage for the Việt nam > war. A peace treaty foresaw elections to unify the country, but the South > Vietnamese government under the self-proclaimed president Ngô Đình Diệm > refused to honour this treaty. > Between 1955 and 1960, the North Vietnamese with the assistance of > the southern communist Việt cộng, tried to take over the government in South > Việt nam, and in November 1963 President Diệm was overthrown and executed. > The United States, in the height of the cold war fearing a communist > take-over got more and more involved in the war, a war they should have known > they could never win. > "If you want to, go ahead and fight in the jungles of Việt nam," > Krutchev predicted. "The French fought there for seven years and still had to > quit in the end. Perhaps the Americans will be able to stick it out for a > little longer, but eventually they will have to quit, too." > King Sihanouk realised this fact and tried to keep Cambodia neutral, > fearing his country would be subjugated by Việt nam when the US would be > defeated, just like the French at Điện Biên Phủ. Cambodia and its king > however had to pay dearly for sticking to this policy of neutrality. In the > sixties, CIA conspiracies to dispose of Sihanouk were discovered, involving > the rightwing Khmer Serei troops in South Việt nam. Another plot involved Dap > Chuon's establishment of a "free" state that would have included Siem Reap > and Kampong Thom provinces and the southern areas of Laos that were > controlled by the rightist Laotian prince, Boun Oum. > In 1963, Prince Sihanouk announced the immediate termination of > Washington's aid program to Cambodia. The final break came in May 1965 amid > increasing airspace violations by South Vietnamese and by United States > aircraft and of ground fighting between Army of the Republic of Việt nam > troops and Việt Cong insurgents in the Cambodian border areas. > When in 1969 Henry Kissinger became President Nixon's security > advisor, he persuaded Nixon to widen the war with massive bombing of Cambodia > and Laos, which killed approximately 600,000 Cambodian civilians (and another > 350,000 in Laos), far more than the number of people that were killed by > Khmer Rouge atrocities. For reasons beyond comprehension, these bombings are > not considered as crimes against humanity. > President Nixon gave the go-ahead to "Operation Breakfast" in an > effort to destroy Communist supply routes and base camps in Cambodia. This > covert bombing of rural Cambodia, conducted without the knowledge of Congress > or the American public, continued for fourteen months in subsequent > Operations called Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Dessert, Supper. > We need to emphasise that at the beginning of 1970, on the eve of the > coup against Sihanouk, Cambodia was a prosperous country and its balance of > payments was stable. In 1969, the farmers had a rich harvest and Cambodia > could export 400,000 tons of rice. > What happened as a result of the "Nixon doctrine" in its purest form, > plunged Cambodia in the deepest misery and deprivation. > The US sponsored and directed on 18 March 1970 the coup by General > Lon Nol that disposed Prince Sihanouk as Head of State, established the Khmer > Republic and set off the civil war in Cambodia. The republican army repressed > bloodily all protest by Khmer peasants and other Khmer citizens. > This civil war that followed with US support for the Lon Nol > government created momentum for the "liberation" campaign by the Khmers > Rouges, who gained support from people loyal to prince Sihanouk, from > patriots and from the victims of the indiscriminate bombings of rural > Cambodia. > Evidence from U.S. official documents, declassified in 1987, leaves > no doubt that this U.S. terror was critical in Pol Pot's drive for power. > "They are using [the bombing] as the main theme of the propaganda," reported > the C.l.A. Director of Operations on May 2, 1973. "This approach has resulted > in the successful recruitment of a number of young men and the propaganda has > been most effective among refugees subjected to B-52 strikes." > The Khmers Rouges had the apparatus already in place to fight the > corrupt regime and took control of the battle. Joining the liberation > movement FUNC-GRUNC for which prince Sihanouk had made an appeal, they took > advantage of the prince's popularity in rural Cambodia to expand their ranks. > American support for the ouster of Sihanouk (viewed by the rural populace as > the father of the country) and the subsequent invasion of Cambodia by U.S. > troops in April 1970 prompted a backlash that strengthened support for the > insurgent Khmer Rouge guerrillas. > The Khmer Republic of Lon Nol and his younger brother Lon Non > practised a repulsive autocracy, according to the most honest western press. > Massive aid and military support from the US gave raise to unequalled > corruption within the Cambodian administration and armed forces. > US bombing of rural Cambodia reached its peak in the summer of 1973, > when intense aerial bombardment was used to halt a Khmer Rouge assault on > Phnom Penh. This bought time for the Lon Nol government, but did not stem the > momentum of the liberation forces. These bombings were also carried out > against a peasant society with no air force or ground defences. > The bombing contributed to the forging of a brutal and > single-mindedly fanatical Khmer Rouge movement. > On 1 January 1975, the Khmers Rouges started their offensive against > the capital. After the Mekong was effectively blocked in early February, the > United States began airlifting supplies. As defeat approached, Lon Nol > resigned on 1 April 1975 and fled the country. > On 17 April, Phnom Penh fell into the hands of the Khmer Rouge > forces. On 12 April, US embassy personnel were evacuated by helicopter. The > nightmare could begin… > > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Bopha Angkor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Bopha Angkor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We lost the war! > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:21 AM > > Beside the evils who consent with the yuons Vietcong and want to > clean yuon vietcong crimes from the late genocide against Khmer people, other > people know that, yuons Vietcong didn’t only used Khmer and Khmer territory > to lead war against USA but at time the yuon Vietcong planed the killing > field inside Khmer territory since long ago to explode in 17 april 75 till > today by using the same killing tools (Khmer Vietminh or Khmer rouge) > composed of yuon agents and people trained and brainwashed to hate Khmer and > to kill Khmer for Yuons. This is nothing new in yuon political perspective > but a well ancestral yuon expansionist and genocidal politics in its quest of > new territory and natural > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
