PROBLEMS OF THE KRT TRIBUNAL. Co-prosecutors Robert Petit and Chea Leang( VIETNAMESE ) ACTING AS "CAMBODIAN" CO-PROSECUTOR HERE. PROBLEMS OF INCOMPETENCE OF THE UN TRIBUNAL IN CAMBODIA OCCUPIED BY VIETNAM A UN MEMBER COUNTRY AGAINST 10 UN RESOLUTIONS. DUCH IS A VIETNAMESE SO THE KHMER ROUGE IN QUESTION IS VIETNAMESE . WHAT DOES CO PROSECUTOR ROBERT PETIT HAVE TO SAY ? WHAT DOES Jacques Verges HAVE TO RAISE THE QUESTION OF GENOCIDE THAT HAS ITS ROOT CAUSE FROM THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION OF KOH TRAL SINCE 1975, AND FUNK ( SIHANOUK'S TROOPS THAT HAD CAPTURED PHNOM PENH WERE NVN/VC TROOPS , INCLUDING DUCH , HOR NAM HONG ...) KRT co-prosecutors disagree with each other over the pursuit of addditional KR defendants
Phnom Penh (Cambodia) 20 November 2006. Co-prosecutors Robert Petit and Chea Leang( VIETNAMESE ) ACTING AS "CAMBODIAN" CO PROSECUTOR , during the plenary session of judges for the KR Tribunal (Photo: John Vink/Magnum) Jan. 11, 1979 The UN Security Council agreed, over the objections of the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia, to let Prince Norodom Sihanouk present a demand for the withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. The Vietnamese communists , the Chinese friends, continued to disobey the UN resolutions:Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia.As of today, Cambodia is still occupied by the Vietnamese troops despite the call from the US president to Vietnam to cease her occupation of Cambodia since 1988. Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of CambodiaOffice of the Co-Prosecutors8 December 2008 STATEMENT OF THE CO-PROSECUTORS On 1 December 2008, in accordance with Internal Rule 71(2) of this Court, the International Co-Prosecutor filed a Statement of Disagreement between the Co-Prosecutors and forwarded it to the Office of Administration for adjudication by the Pre-Trial Chamber. This disagreement rests upon the appropriateness of opening new judicial investigations into crimes committed in various locations throughout Cambodia by certain persons considered to be senior leaders of the Khmer Rouge or persons most responsible for crimes under that regime. The Office of the Administration has since seized the Pre-Trial Chamber of this disagreement for adjudication. It has also forwarded the case files to the Pre-Trial Chamber.Preliminary investigation of the Co-Prosecutors and adjudication by the Pre-Trial Chamber of disputes between them are, by law, confidential. This is to uphold presumption of innocence, protection of victims and witnesses and, above all, the integrity of the investigative process.The Co-Prosecutors shall strive to achieve a consensus throughout the process of a judicial determination of this disagreement. Regardless of this disagreement, the Co-Prosecutors have been and shall continue to work together, in all their cases, to ensure that justice is rendered to the victims of the Khmer Rouge. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jacques Verges; Verges at press conference : Samphan's French co-lawyerDate: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:52:08 -0800 IN CAMBODIA OCCUPIED BY VIETNAM AGAINST 10 UN RESOLUTIONS 1979-2008. THE UN TRIBUNAL HAS CONSUMED MORE THAN 54 MILLIONS DOLLARS ALREADY,with no progress, SHOWING A TOTAL INCOMPETENCE AND COMPLACENCY among those responsibles in omitting to read THE 10 UN RESOLUTIONS REGARDING THE VIETNAMESE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA. Q: KR victims accuse Verges of "playing games," call on judges to bar him from court A: Really ? VERY INTERESTING AND EXCITING GAMES BETWEEN PLAYERS : a. Vietnam the invader country b. China c. UN d...etc.... e...DUCH is a Vietnamese , Hor Nam Hong is a vietnamese, Ieng Sary is a Vietnamese, the 4 Tioun brothers are Vietnamese, Keat Chhon married to a Vietnamese wife..... Causes of the war between the KR of Pol Pot regime and the Vietnamese invaders. -Koh Tral , and other islands occupied by the Vietnamese since 1970 and in 1975 -cease fire offerted by the Vietnamese not accepted by the KR , while the Viet troops remains in Cambodia. -then the Vietnamese troops of invasion of Cambodia in December 1978 and Occupation of Cambodia from 1979-2008. -this evidence showing that THE CHINESE LEADERS ARE LIARS AND CHEATER AS OF TODAY. March 22, 1970 Prince Sihanouk meets with Zhou Enlai in Beijing and is told: "... China is determined to support Your Highness until Your Highness returns to his own country in victory. So long as Your Highness is determined to fight to the end, it is for certain that we will provide Your Highness with our support.... Prince Sihanouk: With China's support, I will persist in the struggle. No matter how long the struggle will last and how many difficulties it will endure, I will never yield. On Dec. 25, 1978 Invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. Jan. 11, 1979 The UN Security Council agreed, over the objections of the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia, to let Prince Norodom Sihanouk present a demand for the withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. The Vietnamese communists , the Chinese friends, continued to disobey the UN resolutions:Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia.As of today, Cambodia is still occupied by the Vietnamese troops despite the call from the US president to Vietnam to cease her occupation of Cambodia since 1988. Cambodia needs Independence from Vietnam and the Vietnamese invaders. America calls Vietnam to restore Cambodia Independence .President Reagan's address to the 43d Session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, New York . September 26, 1988. "Mr. Secretary-General, there are new hopes for Cambodia, a nation whose freedom and independence we seek just as avidly as we sought thefreedom and independence of Afghanistan. We urge the rapid removal of all Vietnamese troops ...."THE CHINESE LEADERS REMAINS SILENT ON THIS ISSUE , ALLOWING THE VIETNAMESE TO OCCUPY CAMBODIA AGAINST THE 10 UN RESOLUTIONS, WHILE CHINA HAS PROMISED SIAHNOUK TO SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENCE OF CAMBODIA ?THE CHINESE COMMUNISTS LEADERS ARE LIARS VIS A VIS THE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE,so are the Vietnamese invaders... Bury THESE ARE KHMER WOMEN VICTIMS . BUT DUCH. the butcher is a Vietnamese Dec 05, 2008By Elena in Khieu Samphan, ECCCThe Tribunal ReportThe Post.blogs As anyone who has spent time in Cambodia knows, people in this country generally go to great lengths to avoid overt confrontation. So the verbal sparring that erupted at a post-hearing press conference Thursday revealed the extent to which Khmer Rouge survivors were offended -- and even enraged -- by the antics of Khieu Samphan's defense team.Center ring was Jacques Verges, Samphan's French co-lawyer. A bombastic character who has made a career defending notorious clients like Nazi Klaus Barbie, he returned to the ECCC to once again argue that all the documents in Khieu's case file be translated into French. Because the court has refused to provide adequate translation -- and thus violated Khieu's rights -- the former Khmer Rouge head of state should be released from provisional detention, Verges argued. A decision on the defense's appeal is due at a later date.True to reputation, Verges' appearance at the hearing had a theatrical flair. (Recently, he has been performing a one-man show, Serial Plaideur, in Paris). Verges accused Co-Prosecutors of "mocking" him and said he felt like he was in "a third world market bargaining to receive translations.""I am wearing a robe that gives me dignity and I am not wearing the slippers of a servant," Verges told the court. "... I laugh in the face of your threats."As the hearing adjourned, Verges and his similarly animated Cambodian counterpart, Sa Sovan, were swarmed by media. They continued to lambaste the court at a press conference and challenged the Co-Prosecutors to a debate. But victims in the audience quickly lost patience with the defense lawyers' arguments and demeanor."You, co-lawyer, you speak too much," a diminutive woman called out from the audience. "Why not let the victims speak too? We are here but we cannot speak."The exchange quickly devolved into a shouting match, with Sa Sovan rebuking and pointing accusatorily at the woman, before court staff escorted him and Verges out of the room.A much less eventful presentation by the Co-Prosecutors followed, and afterwards, the victims were allowed to have their say. Most expressed anger with Khieu's defense team, saying the lawyers had no respect for victims or for the court."Please don't play games with the souls of 1.7 million dead people," one civil party pleaded. "You are performing a circus."Several called on the ECCC to bar Verges from the tribunal. No doubt he will get some mileage out of this -- Verges already repeatedly invokes the judges' previous suggestion that Khieu replace him after he refused to participate in his client's April hearing.Thursday's incident was the first time I have seen such an outburst of emotion at the tribunal. I had wondered how Verges' notoriously dramatic courtroom style would go over in Cambodia, and I think this reaction offers a preliminary answer. Victims were deeply offended by what they perceived as a flippant attitude toward the court, and to their own suffering.At the same time, while Verges is an unusually outspoken attorney (here, anyway), what many Cambodians see as "game playing" is standard in most western courts. Defense attorneys are often accused of being obstructionist -- delaying proceedings and nitpicking over seemingly insignificant issues are common strategies they use to represent clients.This may be hard for people here to grasp, considering the lack of standard courtroom procedure and due process in the Cambodian judicial system. The fact that most people already believe the defendants are guilty adds a further level of complication.Once again, this is why education and outreach are so vital to the court's success. 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