Sunday, May 31, 2009  Political Debate between Cambodian and Vietnamese on
"Invading or 
Saving?"<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/05/political-debate-between-cambodian-and.html>

First, your argument has some weigh. Many foreign scholars have called
current ongoing trial of Khmer Rouge leaders as "travesty of justice". They
have commented the same thing like what you are telling me here. But I am
really disturbed by this low class analysis and alien approaches to describe
the situation in Cambodia.

Post at: http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/

4:33 AM and for Main Link of this
Debate<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2008/04/khmer-rouge-brutality-and-vietnam.html>

I am aware that Khmer Rouge brutality is unacceptable. Now I am insulted as
too ignorant, simplistic and cocky to understand the current Cambodia
position. You can say whatever you can express your personal opinion. But be
aware that your personal opinion is just yours. It cannot be ours. Thus, I
am not in the imagination world or in the world of opinion. I would like to
allow you to understand that I am in the real world and empirical opinion.

I am young Cambodian. I lost my parents, siblings and other several
relatives. This loss has trembled me ever since. But I have never lost to
call for fair treatment from others, particularly Vietnam who should not use
hegemonic policy over Cambodia through the expense of our relatives'
suffering in their great westward march. They should stop try to legitimize
their invasion.

First, your argument has some weigh. Many foreign scholars have called
current ongoing trial of Khmer Rouge leaders as "travesty of justice". They
have commented the same thing like what you are telling me here. But I am
really disturbed by this low class analysis and alien approaches to describe
the situation in Cambodia.

For Cambodia, if we don't have the UNs and international communities, we
don't have present Cambodia. But what is worse is that "present Cambodia has
not yet been well solved by the UNs". Cambodia still has imperialistic
legacy of Vietnam. I know your word is logical and sweat, but I can say your
word is good to keep Vietnam's "status quo" of hegemony and domination over
Cambodia.

Secondly, many other countries like Germany or Japan experienced brutality
or genocide or race elimination, but after the war, these countries have
stopped to debate about right and wrong, legitimate or illegitimate to what
was happening in the past of their countries. Only Cambodia who is using
Khmer Rouge brutality as the pretext to seek justice, healing, and
strengthening the rule of laws. Actually, it is only serving the "status
quo" of Vietnam inside Cambodia. I know your word here is really logical and
reasonable to current Cambodian political leaders. They are drunk of power
and sometime feasibly brainwashed by Vietnam. The present Cambodian
political leaders inside the government, most of them are working for
personal fame, money and power, they don't care what is going to happen in
the future.

These two things might help you to understand more about "real world and
empirical opinion" of younger Cambodians.

KY
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4:33 AM
Le
Well said, the young generation in Cambodia NEVER understood what had
happened to their parents' generation, instead only looking at present
issues like land annexing or ideological difference, or political diversion.
It's true that although we are very close neighbours, we are totally
different in every senses, unlike Vietnam and China. Vietnam was under
Chinese domination for thousands of years and most Vietnam tradition,
language and rituals are from China. But nothing like that seen in Vietnam -
Cambodia perspectives. I could imagine Cambodia opposition to Vietnam is
much like Vietnam's opposition to China, but causes must be clearly
distinguished.

With regard to the presence of Vietnam in Cambodia in late 70s to 80s, I bet
most Cambodians weren't tauched how their past generations had gone thru the
murderous regime of Polpot. The current generation in Cambodia is simply too
young and ignorant, too preoccupied by other issues so as to jump conclusion
rather than look at historical context and why they should have been
grateful of the Viet, including my dad serving there for 3 years. Without
the Viet intervention, Cambodia was just a another sad story like North
Korea under the Chineses' chessboard.

By the way, UN is NOT a standard for anyone to take stand. If you look at
the impotency of UN, the ignorance of big powers, the filthy politics all
together, I would suggest you that Cambodia is just a mockery of UN failure.
Although Polpot was convited of the massacre of more than 1 million
Cambodians from 75-79, he DID it with the support of Beijing, and arms from
US, UK and many other countries simply because they wanted to stop the
Soviet expansion in Southeast Asia, regardless of how many human lives lost.
Even after the collapse of the Polpot regime, such countries still
RECOGNISED the Polpot's seat at UN. What? And now, they made up their mind
by asking INTERNATIONAL COURT to try Polpot regime, so basically outlawing
that regime and REVERSING their own position. WTF? If you look at the latest
example of Iraq, you would know why UN was, and is, a mere tool for some
countries to manipulate the whole world.

There is no gain or loss for both our countries, as we are too small and
often being taken as a pawn on the chessboard of big countries, we were ALL
LOSERS. Vietnam has learnt a lot from its history and I think we have a
pretty good government in presence. Be soft to deal with contentious issues,
but tough when it comes to national soveignty. Many young generations are
just too ignorant, simplistic, cocky to understand the position we are now.

-- 
Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless
strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation!
http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com

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