Rabbit, It is a huge opportunity for Hun Sen and his government to tackle corruption. It is an ugly Cambodian culture-- to bribe and to take bribe at all level. People cannot buy votes if there is no one to sell votes and vice versa. Blaming buyers is not totally correct. It takes at least two people to buy and sell. But, people at the top level should take the lead to stop corruption. All must try.. It is time for Cambodians to solve this problem together. There is no time to argue or fight over small things. I opposed personal lawsuits between Premier Hun and Mme. Mu from the very beginning. I know that such lawsuits will get them nowhere, except wasting so much time, effort and money. They are just distractions. =========== In a message dated 8/19/2009 12:38:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Now you are taling about the culture. This culture has been a part of the Cambodian culture for a very long time. Don't tell us that it only happens at the top level, and the lower level is hurting. All Cambodians have been practicing corruptioin and the culture of impunity. These elements have been with the Cambodian society for a very long time. Cambodians can't just blame the top. All Cambodians always praise those who were able to corrupt and get things done, and able to be wealthy. All Cambodians always try to find ways to do that. When pupils have to bribe teachers for education, things are not doing well. Today, it's happening all over Cambodia that way. On Aug 19, 12:53 am, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > Make it short and concise Tim, > > If you love to see Cambodia have genuine democracy, what is your plan > and participation? > > SRP has been cornered by CPP, you want to this democratic party died > of doing nothing, or died of struggling and trying? > > KY > > On Aug 19, 4:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Culture of Compromise Seen Hurting Courts > > It is also hurting the people! > > It will take decades, if it happens at all, that Cambodia will see an > > independent court system which dares to make judgments against Cambodian > > rulers and powerful leaders. It is in the Cambodian culture, where powerful > > figures are "untouchable". Khmer Rouge's hybrid court, for example, is being > > used to try only those who are powerless or less powerful. Some rulers are > > left out. > > Opposition parties must be smart enough not to do things that can be > > backfired. Supporters (of the oppositions), on the other hand, should not be > > overly excited for events that are intentionally created for political > > agendas. People have been killed and injured for bad moves created by politicians > > for such purposes. Politicians almost always find their safe haven though > > political bargains, defection and political asylum, while living supporters > > continue to live in fears. > > =========== > > > Culture of Compromise Seen Hurting Courts > > By Men Kimseng, VOA Khmer > > Original report from Washington > > 18 August 2009 > > Legal action, compromise and asking for pardon to end disputes have become > > an integral part of Cambodian politics, effectively and commonly used in > > past several years. > > Since 2005, the nation’s courts have seen 17 cases that monitors label > > political in nature, stemming from border issues, corruption, defamation, > > disinformation and incitement. The cases have ranged from local politicians and > > rights activists to the prime minister and senior-level opposition > > leaders. > > The new trend has met with mixed reaction. There are those who say such > > cases are an improvement over the use of weapons to solve disputes. But there > > are others who would prefer the courts are not involved in politics, or > > legal issues used as a pretext to intimidate critics of the government. > > Kem Sokha, president of the Human Rights Party, an opposition party with > > three seats in the National Assembly, was once imprisoned briefly as the > > head of the Cambodian Center for Human Rights; he was charged with defamation > > of the government for hanging up a banner for 2005’s Human Rights Day. > > “My release at the time was the result of political compromise, with > > intervention from Cambodians inside and outside the country, as well as > > international intervention,” Kem Sokha told VOA Khmer by phone last week. “I see > > this as not a practice that we want. We want to use a legal system where > > everybody is under the law, as a democratic principle with no one above it.” > > Rong Chhun, president of the Cambodian Independent Teachers Association, > > who was once involved in a court case similar to Kem Sokha’s, said the court’ > > s lack of independence and its service to the ruling Cambodian People’ s > > Party force compromises the other side usually doesn’t want. > > “The culture of begging for pardon, and after the pardoning one turning to > > support or follow a powerful individual is not a good practice,” he said. “ > > But it is understandable, based on dependency and injustice in our legal > > system.” > > The practice has filtered all the way to Cambodia’s remote areas. In > > Ratanakkiri province, Pen Bona, an investigator for the rights group Adhoc, was > > removed from his position, via pressure from the court. > > “The culture of compromise and begging for pardon is not right,” he said > > from Phnom Penh, where he now works in the group’s home office. “It is > > unlawful, and we absolutely don’t want this. Those who are wrong must be > > punished. However, we can only do that in a system where there is real justice.” > > The prevailing system has also affected the highest reaches of politics, > > when, for example, Sam Rainsy Party lawmaker Mu Sochua was fined for > > defamation of Prime Minister Hun Sen last month. > > Mu Sochua, who is also the party’s deputy secretary-general, was fined > > more than $4,000 by Phnom Penh Municipal Court, in court fines and in > > compensation to Hun Sen. She has vowed to appeal but does not rule out the option > > of a compromise. > > “Compromising is an option if it gives dignity to both sides,” she said. “ > > But if the compromise is to make one party, especially the victim, lose > > its dignity, as in writing a letter to apologize, this is not a compromise. > > Without a compromise that gives honor to both sides, the court is a better > > option.” > > The case draws lots of condemnation both nationally and internationally > > expressing concern that the country might plunge into dictatorship. > > Hun Sen, meanwhile, has lashed out of critics of the case, which he > > brought against Mu Sochua after she sued him for defamation, for allegedly > > degrading remarks made in a speech in April. > > “Those of you who would like to issue a statement, both Khmer and > > foreigners, I would call you stupid, dumb and ignorant of the law,” Hun Sen said in > > a speech last week, lambasting critics. “You only recognize rights of the > > opposition not lawful rights of those in power.” > > There are other cases. Twenty-two military officials are suing another SRP > > lawmaker. One opposition journalist has been jailed for defamation while > > another editor promised to shutter his paper to avoid the same fate. > > “In a case where someone says sorry and admits his mistake, it is enough,” > > Phay Siphan, spokesman for the Council of Ministers, told VOA Khmer. “ > > Firstly, the government’s stance is to show what is right and wrong. Secondly, > > those who pass judgment are not the executive or legislative bodies. It is > > the judiciary body.” > > Phay Siphan denied government influence over the courts, despite critics > > who note that the opposition rarely wins cases that appear political to > > begin with. > > “I have never received [government] pressure in more than 10 years on the > > job,” Mong Monychakriya, a Supreme Court judge, said. “I solve a case > > based on my own merit, as the law permits.” > > Some legal professionals, meanwhile, say politicians should leave the > > judicial system alone, to ensure its independence. > > “We must follow the law and its procedure, once lawmakers give power to > > the court and the court is independent of political influence,” said Hong > > Kimsuon, an attorney for the Cambodian Defenders Project. “This is a decision > > that would benefit the whole population. If it’s a penal case, and [both > > sides] compromise and withdraw based on compromise and fear of influence, > > this is not a good practice.”- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
