This statement reflects the carving on the wall of Angkor Wat. "Those who come to this land [srok Khmer], and accept the ancestors contributions and show gratitude to allegiance to this nation are part of the Khmer identity."
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Chamnap Keo <[email protected]> wrote: > Neak Kampuchea works really hard to push for this new word. If as you say, > Cambodia has thousands of years of history, don't you think it's culture and > people know who they are? > > What Neak Kampuchea does not tell us is that his campaign to put this new > word to forefront is not a result of Cambodians mis-classifying themselves > and confusion about their Khmer identity, but only that Khmer and the > demographic of today's Cambodia is changing to accompanied for the masses > of millions of legal and illegal Youns who come to live in Cambodia. We know > that, Youn have live en mass with in Cambodia and spread like wildfire, > however, we are not confused about this "self-proclaim" Khmer identity. It > has been this way for over a thousand years, and the fact that it needs to > be change now does not reflect a mistake, but as I say, rather an > unfortunate change and trend in the reality of Vietnamese and Sino dominated > Khmer land, or as we always say in Khmer, "Srok Khmer". > > > What is wrong with using Khmer as an all encompassing group identity? What > is wrong with using this word as we have always use for over > a millennium now? This word Khmer on contrary, does not exclude people out > of Cambodia, it includes and builds solidarity in "Srok Khmer", even the > Sino Khmers had come to refer to themselves as "we Khmers". This is a term, > under an umbrella, of a over 2 thousand years of history of unity, and it > strengthens the continuation of the cultures of our forefathers who have > bestowed it onto us, in this land. Those who come to this land, and accept > the ancestors contributions and show gratitude to allegiance to this nation > are part of the Khmer identity. > > Those who wish to exclude themselves, and self-identify otherwise for other > political purpose, no matter under what guise, what propanda, what message, > or persuasion, is neither Cambodian nor Khmer - but betrayals who have > infiltrated the nation and wishes to destroy it from the inside out. > > Thailand is neither a country of the Tais nor is the TAI a homogenous > ethnic identity, yet "Thai" comes to be the core identifying feature of that > country and unity for many people who are not even Tai. And Thai identity is > brief compared to the Khmer identity, so it should be that the Khmer > identity should wrap an even stronger solidarity and unity among all people > of Cambodia - because this is the word that connects this land to its > ancient heritage and the word that will continuate to prerseve > and perpetuation the survival of that heritage. Those who enter wishing to > destroy this heritage can be can neither Cambodia, Chun Kampuchea or Khmer > and should forever be outcast as foreigners bent on the destruction and > domination of Khmer nation. Period. > > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Neak Kampuchea > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Khmer culture heritage Foundation itself has been creating Khmer >> extremism, corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen >> Sen’s birth date. >> >> Please be understood that Cambodian is not a race’s name as certain >> individual of Khmer self-proclaimed have believed. One should thinks >> that this English word Cambodian meaning is not the same as Khmer >> language meaning, which has not been adjusted for decades along social >> evolution or in others words along with multi-ethnic integration. >> Cambodian should be called in Khmer word “Chun-Kampuchea” but not >> Khmer. >> >> Every English word we speak has been updated. So please be careful to >> catch-up this English word “Cambodian”, which is designated for >> calling all inhabitants within Cambodia’s territories without >> discriminating of origins of birth, belief, and political tendency. >> Please keep in mind that Cambodian does not exceed to be illegally >> added Khmer ethnic of Vietnam or Khmer ethnic of Thailand. Cambodian >> word is solely nominated for people within Cambodia’s legal boundary. >> >> All those Khmer language confusions has been due to the lack of Khmer >> language institute existence, which would be updating Khmer language >> along Cambodian social evolution, during the past hundred years to >> present days. >> >> Look these Khmer words that are saying Preah Vehear and Angkor temples >> are Khmer culture. But in English the whole meaning is this: Preah >> Vihear and Angkor temple are Khmer Heritage culture, but not our >> actual Khmer culture, which has been changed so far into Cambodian >> culture. >> >> Some young Cambodian women today are wearing sun glasses with short >> dresses and skirts, men are with suites and ties with western style >> shoes, living in concrete and brick building or houses. Everyone eat >> food on the table with fork and spoon. We dance we listen moderns >> music and songs. >> >> All of what we are doing today is called Cambodian culture. But we are >> not anymore in Khmer ancient culture, for which there is now a >> repeated glorifying games, which are heard for political interest of >> special individual gain in this Khmer lacking logical order language >> (perplexity language). >> >> The actual Cambodian constitution, its self, is conflicting with >> Universal democracy principal, and has truly been creating Khmer >> extremist movement, culture of corruption and impunity due to Khmer >> extreme religious nationalism with misunderstanding of Cambodia’s >> continual social evolution, which would, no doubt, be one day backlash >> for people equal rights, freedom of expression with identical life of >> human dignity, freedom of assembly, freedom of belief, freedom of >> movement, freedom of receiving information. >> >> Look, Cambodia (Kampuchea) is the official name of the country; its >> inhabitants should be called Cambodian, (Chun-Kampuchea). It is none >> relevance or in other words none sense for calling Khmer, that had >> been nominated in ancient time for calling Khmer people in Khmer >> Empire, which had already been fragmented into Cambodia, Thailand, >> South Vietnam. This is the reason why there are Thai-Khmer, Cambodian- >> Khmer, Vietnam-Khmer. For now we have Cambodia, its people should be >> Cambodian. And Cambodian in Khmer word is “Chun-Kampuchea” or simply >> “Kampuchean” (Kampujean). >> >> Pease examine Sam Rainsy’s party and Rong Chhun’s teacher union >> leader; they do politics in the name of Khmer in the flaw >> constitution, in which has some English words mistranslated as We the >> people of Cambodia are Khmer citizen in place of Cambodian citizen, >> These two men, their teams including Ms.Musochea have never called >> Cambodian people in Khmer word Chun-Kampuchea as Mr. Hun Sen did. >> >> This is the reason why there is extremist Khmer movement that has been >> pushing thousand and thousand Khmer Krom of Vietnam and Khmer Surin of >> Thailand for coming to Phnom Penh for claiming their Khmer >> citizenship, because they said they are also Khmer like the others in >> the country. No doubt, there is a strong support from SRP and Union >> leader Rong Chhun for their political gain, but their logical sense is >> lacking. >> >> This potential problem will last, and has extended to make Cambodian >> instability threat, until some day Cambodian Government will >> understand and decide a decisive reform those malicious constitutional >> clauses, in which there is an universal democracy principal flaw. >> . >> Mr. Hen Sen knows all of that, but he thinks this is not the time yet, >> until next young Cambodian generations will become more educated in >> the Cambodian majority as needed. For now, his government has enough >> power to unconstitutionally order for doing anything and calling all >> Cambodian in Khmer word”Chun-Kampuchea” for teaching unaware people >> ahead of the time as needed, and also expressing a willingness for >> avoiding discrimination of origin of birth for all inhabitants in >> Cambodia in the face of UN human right, NGO groups, domestic and >> oversea Cambodian as well. This is what, CPP is doing about. >> >> We the people of Cambodia need Constitutional reform for replacing >> fault version >> “Khmer citizen” by a true description” Cambodian citizen” for pursuing >> to the countries name Cambodia in relevance to the name of its people >> Cambodian. >> >> 1-We the people of Cambodia are “Cambodian citizens”. >> 2-The government of Cambodia is from Cambodian for Cambodian. >> 3-The state is separated from religion that is exclusively belonging >> to the people >> 4-Cambodian government should be Secular. (Neutral is among different >> religions). >> >> If religion continues to belong to the state, Cambodia could never be >> able to alleviate poverty and corruption, which has been hiding behind >> the power of Cambodian government itself. >> >> Believe or not, except to anyone, but please afford to take a look as >> the following: >> >> If one of Ministers, one provincial Governor, one state or a >> provincial Prosecutor, or just a district councilor President or >> national assembly President, or senator President, will plan to do for >> example: Kathen-natien, Haih-Phkar, Kan-ben, or Acpi-sech preah, the >> whole staff under the one who does one of those religious ceremonies, >> must be serenely forced to put some money for taking part with theirs >> big bosses, not for belief season, but instead for showing loyalty as >> intentionally keeping their job secured. >> >> As Cambodia has no “none-profit organization laws” to ruler over every >> association >> in the country, who is going to dare asking for transparency and >> accountability? So what is about the big amount of money they has >> collected? Couldn’t that be corrupted? Who is going to say no, in the >> face of no management and transparency? >> >> If the same boss will do one ceremony two or three time a year, their >> staffs need two or three times money input lost, perhaps the total >> amount is enough for buying clothes needed, the whole year, for their >> children. >> >> How about military and police generals, or Commanders, who controls >> thousand soldiers, or thousand police officers? Are they done same >> religious ceremonies like civilian Ministers did? Yes! They did for >> sure, because we have seen them done. And then, we even know that >> police and military boss do not wait for their staff’s money to come >> voluntary, but they just cut some amount of money from their pay-roll >> without asking them. Who is going to dare to reveal that? But I’m sure >> those victims are going to whisper anywhere. >> >> There are also all over the country, thousand and thousand influential >> private Cambodian middle classes businessmen, which have been doing >> the same religious ceremonies? Yes! They did more than government >> officials do, as they have more free times. How about the big money >> they have collected from hundred innocent and unaware Buddhist >> Cambodian believers under their influence? Who is going to be sure >> they did not corrupt? Is this an easy way, for making easy money, any >> time they want as needed? >> >> One more thing to finalize my very painful of low government class >> officials: >> >> Some big official guys did the same thing, not only for religious >> ceremonies, but for offering large amount of money to Cambodian RED >> CROSS, in which First lady Bunary’s Hun Sen is the president, for >> helping Cambodian disaster victims. >> >> Those big guys did get big money from the cut of pay-roll of their >> staffs far differently from civilian who did get money voluntary from >> their subordinate officials through their job security worrisome. >> >> But this is a smart way; big guys can show their faces through First >> Lady Bunary, for making his loyalty known to Mr. Hun Sen at the >> expense of their suffering staffs. >> >> Those entirely painful example stories mentioned above are >> imperceptible monster corruption. Please be in mind that “none profit >> organization law” is a regulation that is legally rules over an >> association or a group of more than one person, who get involve in any >> money collecting in any religious or none religious ceremony in US >> country. But unfortunately this law doesn’t exist in Cambodia right >> now. >> >> Good government should have a bright perception or in other word, >> wisdom for controlling all those cheating and all those hidden >> corruption by know-how with a win-win strategy from US’s expertise is >> the best, for cleaning up such cruel social defect from several >> hundred years that had been causing permanent poverty for innocent >> Buddhist Cambodian people. >> >> But this could happen only if Mr. Hun Sen had a political will, >> because he is a very powerful Cambodian leader of our time. He can do >> anything if he wants to do it. >> >> Mr. Hun Sen needs investigation? Yes? It’s an easy task! Please just >> send Mr. Soy Sopheap to secretly ask questions hundred first class >> soldiers and police officers. I am sure he will find lot evidences. >> But I’m afraid, Mr. Hun Sen will be silence for a big while before >> taking any action and I think, Mr. Soy Sopheap will be perhaps unable >> to show on TV screen as he did on every small guys every day and >> night . >> >> Look! The state religion promotes monster corruption in every angle of >> Cambodian society, because it’s illegal to say something that is >> happening very badly about Buddhism. People must all the time shut >> their mouth, so please be understood that state should be separated >> from religion, so that people could criticize and corruption would go >> down automatically at least 60% and if with additional “none profit >> organization law” it would be gone down more to 95%. >> >> Please beware that I did not criticize Mr. Hun Sen at all. Today I >> swear and I pledge clearly declaring that Mr. Hun Sen is the best >> Cambodian leader, most Cambodian and all foreign powers can trust more >> than others, as we have been seeing all along, and there is no need to >> mention about them. >> >> But I see under his shadow with this kind of Cambodian constitution, >> in which there is no good judgment for Cambodian social evolution to >> develop and adopt with, and also there is an extreme religious >> nationalism integrated within an invisible monster corruption in every >> angle of Cambodian government and social communities. >> >> But even though with the above potential problem, we can still see, in >> the next 10 years Thailand and Vietnam will be very difficult to >> compete and challenge Cambodia due to Mr. Hun Sen news’s prospective >> openness economic policy that has enormously been attracting foreign >> investors and tourism as well. This beautiful policy has been >> enormously supported by World Bank, IMF, US, EU, Japan, South Korea, >> China and UN. >> >> All of those Hun Sen’s works have been weighing on these two giants >> neighbors that are unaware of being self-trapped with their own >> beloved nationalism barriers for a long time to come. >> >> I really hope that Hun Sen will change and modify the country sometime >> ahead to obtaining good judgment for all Cambodian and foreigners as >> well. >> >> Please remember once more time, that this Khmer heritage culture >> foundation had already been built thousand years before Mr. Hun Sen >> has born in this country, and be patient, he needs more experts, more >> times, and bigger power in order to be able to pass-over this current >> malicious Cambodian constitution without problems before a real reform >> had happened. >> >> With my best regards from Neak Kampuchea. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. >> This is an unmoderated forum. 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