Jan,
I guess I am just a skeptic. I did have my credit card account
compromised by someone who accessed my PayPal account about a year
ago. Ever since, I have a fear of any additional exposure to the
Internet and its inherent security weaknesses. Please do not be
offended by my earlier comments. I may relent and take a look at
your software.
David
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jan Schwenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Robert, David;
>
>
>
> Robert is correct. Putting your coins on this internet is as safe
as your
> bank putting your account, or the IRS, or Social Security, etc.
storing your
> data. The web will be secured by Verisign plus our own security
devices and
> software. While nothing in the world is unbreakable, we can make
it
> probably more trouble that it is worth to break.
>
>
>
> Thanks Robert, you are correct in your comments.
>
>
>
> Robert, by the way, is a real guru in variety coins - he is one of
the
> pioneers in the industry!
>
>
>
> Rgds
>
> Jan
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: robert wilharm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [COINS CLUB] Re: Update on BETA
>
>
>
> David
> I understand what you are saying but I feel that you do not have
to worry
> about someone getting in to your computer. As I understand it the
want list
> is placed into an internet pool with your code on it. Anybody can
reach the
> pool but cannot go beyond that because they do not know where to
go. The
> only information a third party has is a list of coins wanted and a
code
> number that will tell you that someone has the coin on your want
list. You
> then have to except that and from there you and the other party
will
> exchange email to set up a deal. I believe the only safer machine
is
> disconnected from the internet. I know Jan however I do not work
for him or
> for NumisExpert and I have nothing to gain from this post except
to see
> happy collectors.
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "chargerdl1966" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:15 PM
> Subject: [COINS CLUB] Re: Update on BETA
>
>
> >
> > Jan,
> >
> > I am an infrequent poster to this forum, but I am concerned
with
> > creating a venue whereby the world of coin collectors is
connected
> > together in any way. I feel that the "want lists" should be
> > manually posted and there should be no electronic connection to
> > other collectors' listings. There is a very real possibility of
> > some underhanded dealings in the Internet world of shady
> > individuals, identity theft artists and cyber-thieves. I, for
one,
> > will take no interest in any type of software that is installed
on
> > my PC to allow interconnectivity with anyone else. I will not
even
> > allow my sister, a computer programmer and systems expert, to
> > connect to my own machine over the Internet. I strongly urge
other
> > collectors and coin lovers on this forum to consider the same
> > stance. I am not saying that your software is not a "good
thing", I
> > am simply concerned about compromising my own system's security.
> >
> > David Lind
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jan Schwenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Further to my posting about our new Coin software system, I
wanted
> > > to point out some of the design, features, and goals of the
> > > software. NumisEXPERT PRO3 is a completely new software system
> > > intended to build an integrated on-line community of everyone
in
> > the
> > > coin collecting environment. Right now there are thousands of
> > stand-
> > > alone webs, and some networks that appeal to specific segments
of
> > > the field, but there is none that encompasses everyone.
Another
> > way
> > > of stating that is that we are "not all on the same page". We
> > are,
> > > so to speak, living in the Stone Age, a world of little
villages,
> > > some connected by footpaths, some by canals, but most separated
> > from
> > > the others. Some may think this is to their advantage but we
feel
> > > it is not good for the coin collecting community. We are not
> > aware
> > > of anyone trying to change this state of affairs, we believe
that
> > > the coin collecting community will benefit mightily if it comes
> > into
> > > the modern age, and we are developing this software to effect
that
> > > change. The software that we are inviting you to try is the
first
> > > shot in this endeavor.
> > >
> > > The goal is to build an interactive environment that will help
> > > everyone in coin collecting. The collector is the basis, the
> > > foundation of coin collecting, so we will provide every tool
and
> > > information so that he is fully knowledgeable. We will be
> > providing
> > > a price list addressing every U.S. coin since 1616, including
> > > varieties, errors and attributes, priced in every numerical
> > grade.
> > > This price list will be computed in real time daily from
dealers'
> > > offers, flyers, catalogs, sales, auctions, webs and every
source
> > we
> > > can find. The prices will be accurate and timely. As the
system
> > > builds and gains more and more users, we will start to be able
to
> > > provide empirically accurate data on populations, and market
trend
> > > and demand. The system recognizes several different brands of
> > > albums, and many different ways of collecting coins, and can
> > analyze
> > > a collection and provide solid recommendations on how to
improve
> > the
> > > collection, and for collectors to find and acquire coins to
> > improve
> > > their collections so they consistently increase in value
(whether
> > or
> > > not the collectors want to sell their coins, ultimately an heir
> > > might want to or might need to).
> > >
> > > Want Lists that are automatically generated will be able to
show
> > the
> > > collector every matching coin that is available by the various
> > > dealers and collectors throughout the system so he can make the
> > best
> > > buying decision. The system will support registry sets from
> > > recognized grading companies as well as less formal registry
sets
> > > amongst the collectors. It will provide an accurate inventory
> > with
> > > enough accurate information to satisfy any requirement. While
it
> > > currently supports only U.S. coins since 1616, we will be
adding
> > > master databases for other countries, and other eras, again
with
> > > comprehensive data and pricing. We expect to be adding
features
> > for
> > > a long time to come.
> > >
> > > For the dealer, the system will automate all the time and labor
> > > consuming functions to make it cheaper, better and faster for
> > > dealers to sell coins and to give his customers the kind of
> > service
> > > they want. The system will track and analyze all the
> > dealers "buys"
> > > and "sells" to identify where he is getting the best return so
he
> > > can maximize his business. The software will enable him to
> > provide
> > > custom service to all of his customers, to help they maximize
> > their
> > > collection. Dealer want lists will insure that he is making
> > > effective use of the available coins in the market to better
serve
> > > his customers. The system automates appraisals for customers,
> > > liquidation of estates; registry set building and will be able
to
> > > create auction catalogs, mailers, flyers, and direct personal
> > sales
> > > offers. There are many selling tools built in and more coming.
> > If
> > > a dealer so desired, he could list his entire inventory on CWL
> > > (www.coinweblisting.com), and Ebay, and Yahoo, and several
other
> > > venues, still offer some of his inventory in his shop or
office,
> > and
> > > offer other parts of it at shows and presentations. If a coin
> > sells
> > > in any venue, the others are immediately pulled down. This
allows
> > > maximizing exposure and maximizing sales. Collectors that
come to
> > > shows with their want lists on their WiFi pda will be led
directly
> > > to the tables that have what they want. They will be able to
buy
> > > (and pay for), with the click of a button, as they walk in the
> > door.
> > >
> > > Our price list will be initially weekly, and later in real
time.
> > If
> > > a coin is going up in value, you inventory will automatically
be
> > re-
> > > priced to the new price in real time. You will know the demand
> > for
> > > each coin, and will your inventory will automatically respond
to
> > all
> > > want lists automatically and in real time (and those responses
> > will
> > > be updated as prices change).
> > >
> > > There are many more features that will be of help to you in
> > running
> > > your business. Rather than write a book here, please go to the
> > > Portal http://www.numisexpert.com/NEDealerWebHome/default.aspx
> > and
> > > click on the link New User? Sign Up Now to register for the new
> > > software. Even if you have been using prior versions of our
> > > software, this is completely new, much more advanced software
and
> > > you need to sign in as a new user for the BETA. If you are
> > running
> > > a prior version, we will provide you a migration path for your
> > data
> > > at the end of the BETA.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I should have pointed this out in the original message.
> > You
> > > will remain registered in the original software, AND you will
be
> > > registered in the new software.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions, comments, suggestions, ideas on how
to
> > > improve the software, or complaints, please send them to me at
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> >
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