> > So assuming you want to stay in the
> > industry, what do you do about it?
> >
> > 1. You could go completely independent.
> > 2. You could get together with a number of others and form a contracting
firm.
> >
> > So to put this on topic:
> > How do you apply XP to either of those alternatives?

> > John Roth

> Also the "Union of Programmers" would not give up the rights to any
program created and you could simply call the union when you get a gig and
ask for a pair?
>
> Just a dream, I know that can't work in reality.
>
> Stede

Somebody said "If you really want, it will not be a dream".
I see a possible convergence of ideas here that may be worth exploring.  The
end result may be different than the original offerings, and yet work well.

Victor





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stede Troisi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [XP] [OT] Money is Nice


>
>
> Can I ask how going completely independent will help?
>
> I am completely independent and although work hasn't
> slowed for me yet (salary either) I am just an
> employee like everyone else.
>
> A contracting firm sounds interesting. What about a
> union were we only do programs and sell them to
> companies as a company. No custom program can be built
> without going through this "Union of Programmers."
> Also the "Union of Programmers" would not give up the
> rights to any program created and you could simply
> call the union when you get a gig and ask for a pair?
>
> Just a dream, I know that can't work in reality.
>
> Stede
>
>
> --- jhrothjr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William
> > Pietri
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Also, this is pretty far from the topic of this
> > group. Although I'm
> > > personally interested, I don't think a large
> > portion of the 5000
> > > subscribers of this list also feel that way. If
> > you (or others) would
> > > like to discuss international trade theory, I
> > think it would be better
> > > if we found another forum for it.
> > >
> > > William
> >
> > So let's see if we can bring this back
> > toward something that is arguably on
> > topic.
> >
> > Let's assume that for some indefinite
> > but fairly long amount of time there
> > won't be enough jobs in the US with
> > large corps that have sane management
> > policies for either the demand for
> > programming services, or for the programmers
> > that could supply that demand.
> >
> > So assuming you want to stay in the
> > industry, what do you do about it?
> >
> > 1. You could go completely independent.
> >
> > 2. You could get together with a number
> > of others and form a contracting firm.
> >
> > So to put this on topic:
> >
> > How do you apply XP to either of those
> > alternatives?
> >
> > John Roth
> >
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