Adrian Stott wrote:
> Neil wrote:
>
>>>> ...and for the semi-tidal bits, effectively forever for inland
>>>> craft of the
>>>> thin persuasion, seeing as the PLA now control Bow Creek to above
>>>> Bow Lock(s)
>>>
>>> AIUI, the same rules (now) apply on Bow Creek as do on the Thames.
>>> This isn't much of an additional restriction, as once you've
>>> descended Bow Lock you're probably going to the Thames as the Creek
>>> dries for most of the day.  OTOH, its sensible, as PLA really does
>>> need to exercise traffic control given the size of commercial
>>> barges that will be using the Creek.
>>
>> errr...I thought we were talking about pleasure craft using the
>> Tidal Bow Back Rivers?
>
> There are no tidal Bow Back Rivers any more.  Well, no navigable ones,
> anyway.  The short tidal bit of the Three Mills Wall River upstream of
> the House Mill is no longer navigable, as a result of the new weir
> acoss that River associated with Prescott (Three Mills) lock.  All the
> rest of the BBR are now non-tidal.

The Bow Back Rivers are the collective names to all the waterways in the 
area, the Channelsea River / Abbey Creek is still totally tidal and 
certainly very navigable, why you could even get your barge up there!... why 
I would certainly take mine up there if I was ever mad enough to have it in 
the vicinity.
Refresh your memory, by looking at the end of this page:
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/Tour_06/Tour06_BBR.html
Please note I said earlier on I said *semi-tidal*, the former totally tidal 
waterways above Prescott Lock will be *semi-tidal* as high spring tides will 
still overtop the new variable level Prescott Weir. The weir had to be 
designed like this, as to retain the level above high spring tide level 
there would only be a couple of feet headroom under most of the bridges on 
the semi-tidal side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Three_Mills_Lock.jpg

>
>> Boats going out of Bow Lock(s) and doing the Tidal Bow Back Rivers
>> will now have to have VHF if over 13.7m and give a route plan and
>> timings to London VTS.
>
> Once you exit Bow Lock after descending, you are in Bow Creek.  Bow
> Creek is not a Bow Back River.  However, it is tidal -- very tidal.
> And very twisty.  That's why Bow Creek (and only Bow Creek) has been
> transferred to PLA for traffic management.

...along with the tidal Bow Creek above Bow Lock(s)...presumably up to the 
junction with Abbey Creek...in fact do BW now know where their jurisdiction 
now ends???!!! :-)

> It's most unlikely that a boater would want to descend into Bow Creek
> unless he were heading for the Thames.

You are probably right there, seeing as after the Olympics Prescott lock 
will have proved to have been a white elephant and in the past hardly anyone 
could be ar$ed to do the Tidal Bow Back Rivers.

-- 
Neil Arlidge
NB Earnest / Barge Maurice A (in the pipeline)
TNC...Gorn west...
http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/tour.html



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