Hey Jamis, I understand your frustration and decision, and can sympathize with both.
For the record, I'd like to repeat what I said in the "undefined method: close?" thread because it still rings true: "Thanks for creating and continuing to work on this great product. There are a lot of people who appreciate the work that you do." And that still includes me. :-) Thanks again, Larry On 7 Dec, 12:25, Jamis Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should also clarify my earlier post. When I said "drop support for > Windows", what I meant was that I would "stop killing myself to > support Windows". I won't rip out existing windows support. I'm simply > not going to destroy my sanity by feeling like I need to fix these > myself. > > What this also implies, is that if someone claims a patch fixes a > windows bug, and after applying it, nothing breaks on my Mac OS X box, > I'll probably commit it. I won't test it on windows myself. So maybe > you windows users might want to band together and create a QA fork of > capistrano on github where you can collectively test windows-related > patches before they get pushed upstream. > > Just a suggestion. As I said, I'm going to be more-or-less blindly > applying patches that are windows related. If that concerns you, you > might want to follow the capistrano development process (such as it > is) a bit more closely. > > - Jamis > > On Dec 7, 10:08 am, "Jamis Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I noticed that you were ditching support for Solaris because of > > > similar problems. I understand that, too. But the problem is that > > > there are undoubtedly a lot more Windows users than Solaris, and > > > although *nix is the platform of choice for RoR enthusiasts, the > > > number of Rails developers using Windows is rather large and will > > > continue to grow. I am no fan of Microsoft, but, like it or not, they > > > are the 800 lb. gorilla in the room. > > > I'm realizing something about myself and Capistrano. I've been burning > > out on cap lately, and I've been trying to figure out why. > > > I wrote Capistrano for me. I didn't write it to have lots of users. I > > didn't write it to be a popular solution to a problem. I wrote it to > > scratch my itch. It's been a nice side-effect that so many people have > > found it useful, but that wasn't my purpose. > > > I'm burning out because suddenly I'm feeling an obligation to keep > > everyone happy. It is a false obligation, though: I'm honestly not > > beholden to anyone for Capistrano's maintenance. I've never received a > > cent for my work on cap (and I don't want to receive money for > > it--that would put me right back in the obligation boat, and with > > better reason). > > > Something has to give. In this case (and among other things), it's > > Windows. Microsoft may be an 800lb gorilla, but it's not _my_ gorilla, > > and it's not in _my_ room. If you need to appease the gorilla, that is > > (with all due respect) not my problem. If it happens to be your > > problem, please feel free to make the time to get acquainted with > > Net::SSH and Capistrano, and scratch your itch. > > > And, frankly, Capistrano is not _it_ when it comes to deployment. If > > nothing else, you can always go back and do what everybody did > > pre-capistrano: do it by hand. > > > Now, if you're stuck in Windows by corporate policy, you have my > > sympathy. But I'm still not budging on this issue. I will not break my > > back or my sanity on Windows troubleshooting any more. > > > On the other hand, if you're stuck in Windows by choice, you don't > > even have my sympathy. :) It is to YOU that I'm speaking, directly, > > when I say that if you want Capistrano on Windows, then it's your > > responsibility to do something about it. Either you make Cap work on > > Windows and send patches upstream, or you write your own solution from > > the ground up. > > > > Is there a previous release that we can back up to that will work with > > > Windows? Or can you suggest any other alternatives? > > > Any Cap 2.x release ought to work fine on windows. If the pageant > > thing is biting you, disable ssh agent forwarding: > > > ssh_options[:forward_agent] = false > > > If that doesn't work...well, again. It's not my problem anymore. I'm > > sorry to come across so callous, but it's what I have to do right now > > to keep myself motivated to work on Capistrano at all. > > > - Jamis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/capistrano -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
