I joined this group solely to say: JAMIS, YOU ROCK!

The anarcho-capitalist in me almost hopes you DO tear out Windows
support, just to make Cap leaner and cleaner. Then again, I could take
the same advice your giving Windows users and, *gasp*, do it
myself. ;)

On Dec 7, 9:08 am, "Jamis Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I noticed that you were ditching support for Solaris because of
> > similar problems. I understand that, too. But the problem is that
> > there are undoubtedly a lot more Windows users than Solaris, and
> > although *nix is the platform of choice for RoR enthusiasts, the
> > number of Rails developers using Windows is rather large and will
> > continue to grow. I am no fan of Microsoft, but, like it or not, they
> > are the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.
>
> I'm realizing something about myself and Capistrano. I've been burning
> out on cap lately, and I've been trying to figure out why.
>
> I wrote Capistrano for me. I didn't write it to have lots of users. I
> didn't write it to be a popular solution to a problem. I wrote it to
> scratch my itch. It's been a nice side-effect that so many people have
> found it useful, but that wasn't my purpose.
>
> I'm burning out because suddenly I'm feeling an obligation to keep
> everyone happy. It is a false obligation, though: I'm honestly not
> beholden to anyone for Capistrano's maintenance. I've never received a
> cent for my work on cap (and I don't want to receive money for
> it--that would put me right back in the obligation boat, and with
> better reason).
>
> Something has to give. In this case (and among other things), it's
> Windows. Microsoft may be an 800lb gorilla, but it's not _my_ gorilla,
> and it's not in _my_ room. If you need to appease the gorilla, that is
> (with all due respect) not my problem. If it happens to be your
> problem, please feel free to make the time to get acquainted with
> Net::SSH and Capistrano, and scratch your itch.
>
> And, frankly, Capistrano is not _it_ when it comes to deployment. If
> nothing else, you can always go back and do what everybody did
> pre-capistrano: do it by hand.
>
> Now, if you're stuck in Windows by corporate policy, you have my
> sympathy. But I'm still not budging on this issue. I will not break my
> back or my sanity on Windows troubleshooting any more.
>
> On the other hand, if you're stuck in Windows by choice, you don't
> even have my sympathy. :) It is to YOU that I'm speaking, directly,
> when I say that if you want Capistrano on Windows, then it's your
> responsibility to do something about it. Either you make Cap work on
> Windows and send patches upstream, or you write your own solution from
> the ground up.
>
> > Is there a previous release that we can back up to that will work with
> > Windows? Or can you suggest any other alternatives?
>
> Any Cap 2.x release ought to work fine on windows. If the pageant
> thing is biting you, disable ssh agent forwarding:
>
>   ssh_options[:forward_agent] = false
>
> If that doesn't work...well, again. It's not my problem anymore. I'm
> sorry to come across so callous, but it's what I have to do right now
> to keep myself motivated to work on Capistrano at all.
>
> - Jamis

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