Actually, the way that some of the new memory device physics is coming
along, that terabyte may well be the main store.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Ben Kloosterman <[email protected]> wrote:

>  But those same laptops will be running around with 4-16G RAM ( limited by
> batteries, desktops or severs will prob be 100G)  and 64 bit addressing .
> The counter question I raised was  is paging needed as you can persist data
> by other more flexible and more loosely coupled mechanisms   which may be
> slower if the device demands it .  Also solid state drives don’t reduce
> battery power when used which it will for paging , for smartphones this may
>  not be acceptable as the devices size is mainly limited by the battery for
> which we are likely to see little improvement in technology.
>
>
>
> With some doubt over the usefulness of paging ( well I have) why make
> paging a critical feature of an OS and worse tightly couple it to a GC , at
> the least you deny all devices today and in the future that have  no low
> latency secondary storage or which have secondary storage that needs to be
> quite for power reasons ?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> *On Behalf Of *Jonathan S. Shapiro
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:18 PM
> *To:* [email protected]; CapROS development
>
> *Subject:* Re: [CapROS-devel] Paging and Garbage Collection
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Ben Kloosterman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ...I'm seeing a lot of newer devices with
> no or very little local storage with the OS loaded from some sort of ROM
>
>
>
> By the end of the next decade we're going to see commodity priced laptops
> with durable, relatively low latency solid-state stores in the terabyte
> range.
>
>
>
> The question isn't whether disk is going away. The question is how long
> it's going to take for commodity main memory to re-aquire ECC. Until then,
> there will be a logical store concept for the sake of durable and reliable
> recovery, even if that logical store is implemented in solid-state store.
>
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