Hi Eric,

Sorry for the delay.  Comments inline:

Thanks,
Yiu

From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyn...@cisco.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 8:35 AM
To: "captive-portals@ietf.org" <captive-portals@ietf.org>, Jason Livingood 
<jason_living...@cable.comcast.com>, "Lee, Yiu" <yiu_...@cable.comcast.com>, 
"jason.w...@charter.com" <jason.w...@charter.com>
Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerl...@ericsson.com>, Erik Kline 
<ek.i...@gmail.com>, Roman Danyliw <r...@cert.org>, Benjamin Kaduk 
<ka...@mit.edu>, "martin.h.d...@gmail.com" <martin.h.d...@gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] BoF proposal: Evaluate impact of MAC address randomization 
to IP applications


Jason, Jason, Yiu,



Based on the previous email thread, may I suggest a couple of items to improve 
the BoF proposal (wiki/agenda) ?

- I guess that there will be more than 50 people based on the initial reactions

- adding capport as conflict to be avoided for the BoF

[YL] Can you elaborate?



- adding a link to draft-lee-randomized-macaddr-ps

[YL] Will do



- assuming that it is too early to form a WG, please state the status of ‘non 
WG forming’

[YL] Noted



- putting  the description & agenda on the wiki 
https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!RSXmaxkBH6JCErvEmGGD7luqaqCDc3f9wIiM6WRHvkBmPZqaeFNHBe8PHAbsvGE$>
 before this Friday 2nd of October deadline

[YL] Will work on it tomorrow.



- starting to find a potential chair who is not a proponent

[YL] Ok



- Adding discussion about privacy impact on the agenda is important or even 
critical

[YL] OK



- adding IEEE coordination is also important (could be handled before the 
potential BoF)

[YL] JW will help here.





More specific to draft-lee-randomized-macaddr-ps-01, here are a couple of 
comments (mostly details):

  *   MAC addresses are not always 48 bits long
  *   MAC addresses are not always assigned by manufacturers (think VM)
  *   Suggest to distinguish between ‘stable’ and ‘static’ and ‘persistent’ MAC 
address
  *   Of course BCP 14 is no more RFC 2119 ;-)
  *   PS-04 is more a requirement than a problem statement

[Y] We will add these to 02.





Hope this helps and happy to continue the discussion of course ;-)

[YL] Thanks!





-éric
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