On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Supun Kamburugamuva <[email protected]> wrote:
> The features provided by App Servers like JBoss, WebLogic may not be > available in tomcat and our users may not be able to use those. For > example I'm pretty sure WebLogic like servers will have more advanced > ways of monitoring and management capabilities. > +1... And not to mention the JMS, JTA and JNDI support provided by some of these app servers. We also have some users who have deployed the ESB on Tomcat and use the servlet transports to receive HTTP requests. They have opted to do so regardless of the performance considerations because their organizational policies do not allow any other deployment model. Thanks, Hiranya > > Thanks, > Supun.. > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]> wrote: > > The big problem with this is not architecture but customers. Many of our > > customers *cannot* deploy Carbon standalone because their ops teams will > not > > allow it. They require us to be deployed into an existing App Server > > environment. > > > > Paul > > > > On 1 September 2010 10:03, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Folks, > >> As you know, Carbon servers can run in standalone mode or can be > deployed > >> within an Application Server. This has caused us major architectural > >> constraints & issues since we have to start an OSGi container within the > >> Carbon webapp, while the Carbon webapp itself runs within a servlet > >> container. We've had to put in many ugly workarounds to make this setup > >> work, and still have some limitations. If we drop support for running > Carbon > >> as a webapp, then we can simply start an OSGi container, and run the > servlet > >> container as a bundle deployed on this OSGi container. Also, now that we > >> have support for deploying webapps, it doesn't make sense to have a > webapp > >> (Carbon) which allows you to deploy other webapps within it, This will > be > >> architecturally clean as well. > >> So, is every in agreement with going ahead with this? Thoughts welcome. > >> -- > >> Afkham Azeez > >> Senior Software Architect & Senior Manager; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com > , > >> > >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > >> email: [email protected] cell: +94 77 3320919 > >> blog: http://blog.afkham.org > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez > >> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez > >> > >> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Architecture mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Fremantle > > CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 > > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, VP, Apache Synapse > > > > Office: +44 844 484 8143 > > Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > > twitter.com/pzfreo > > [email protected] > > > > wso2.com Lean Enterprise Middleware > > > > Disclaimer: This communication may contain privileged or other > confidential > > information and is intended exclusively for the addressee/s. If you are > not > > the intended recipient/s, or believe that you may have received this > > communication in error, please reply to the sender indicating that fact > and > > delete the copy you received and in addition, you should not print, copy, > > retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information contained in > this > > communication. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, > > secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any > > errors or omissions. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Architecture mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture > -- Hiranya Jayathilaka Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org E-mail: [email protected]; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491 Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
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