Thanks Kizito, I believe care2x is still a good project despite the
lack of updates over recent years. In terms of functionality it still
beats most other open source HIS, and I hope to breathe more life into
it.

Tim
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 08:25, Bwana Kizito <kizoman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This should be the way to go. We appreciate your efforts Tim in keeping it 
> running over the years. (frankly I think no-one else is using it on PHP7). 
> The main branch seems to be dormant for almost a decade, probably the society 
> should adopt Tim's version when the time comes.
>
> Wakatabahu!
>
> Bw. Kizito S.M.
> Skype: kizoman
> Mob: +255 75 543 7887
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:20 PM Tim Schofield <tim.schofield1...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alejandro,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your email, and very helpful comments. I am an
>> accountant, and not a clinician, so I have always tried not to
>> interfere with the workflow in care2x, unless otherwise instructed by
>> clinicians.
>>
>> If you select "login" from the menu on the left, and login from there
>> it shouldn't keep asking for repeated logins. It will time out after
>> an interval but off the top if my head I can't remember what that
>> interval is.
>>
>> I am aware that there are bugs in the demo I put online, the code
>> didn't run at all on PHP7.x so I have done my best to get something
>> running, and I fixed most of the bugs, but I know it is not 100%.
>>
>> As a humble bean counter I have always found the care2x code complex
>> and impenetrable. Our first aim was to simplify the code, so that
>> people who aren't professional coders can understand it, take it and
>> build upon it for their own needs. We have adopted the process as
>> Kizito suggested of taking the existing functionality and mapping it
>> exactly in the new code. I realise what we are doing won't be to the
>> satisfaction of everyone but they are also free to take the code and
>> adapt it as well.
>>
>> Truth is I hadn't planned to say anything about our plans at this time
>> until we had some new code to demonstrate, but when Kizito posted his
>> mail I wanted to respond in some fashion.
>>
>> Your email has been circulated to all my colleagues so that we can
>> take your comments into account, and further ideas from a clinician
>> such as yourself are most welcome.
>>
>> Tim
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 at 09:44, Alejandro de Garate via
>> Care2002-developers <care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sure,
>> > Hi Tim
>> >
>> > It is difficult to test an online program when it asks you for the user and
>> > password at each step.
>> >
>> > It is logical that there are different users and passwords for modules used
>> > by different people. But there are cases where the user is the same and the
>> > system should accept it; And not to mention if one enters with the category
>> > of administrator.
>> > This is a basic requirement to be able to test the program and make an 
>> > honest
>> > return of what one thinks of it. For my es very important !
>> >
>> >
>> > "same old basic problems"
>> > -------------------------
>> > The main problem is the admision of the pacient.
>> >
>> > I am been working most of the time at emergency unit. Is quite common that
>> > unconscious patient can't give you any data, at less he carry an 
>> > identification
>> > document (also not too common).
>> >
>> > So to use care2x in the entrance to emergency, it is necessary to make 
>> > important
>> > changes.
>> >
>> > And then when you can provide the correct identification data, all the
>> > procedures done must be able to be added to the clinical history, if the 
>> > patient
>> > has previous hospital admissions; Or convert current admission data into a
>> > new clinical history record.
>> >
>> > Other data such as blood type are obsolete, do not conform to current 
>> > procedures
>> > and should be discarded.
>> >
>> > As I have previously told you, I work in a public charity hospital, in the
>> > emergency laboratory.
>> >
>> > With the current configuration online I can't add a patient and request
>> > laboratory analysis.
>> >
>> > I think a system like Care2x should be as solid rock, and work like a charm
>> > from the beginning, not as current do.
>> >
>> > In recent years, with changes in computer systems and decentralization of
>> > different sectors, ie: laboratory, radiology, etc (giving more independence
>> > about its internal computer systems) but always vinculated with HIS, we 
>> > start
>> > to use an internal laboratory order number and not the admission number.
>> >
>> > This was because the patient had blood drawn for analysis, the results 
>> > were sent
>> > to the LIS, observed by the clinician, without administratively having
>> > completed the admission number.
>> >
>> > I do not say that this is good, only that it is a way to deal with the high
>> > demand of patients that we receive in the Emergencies sector and in the
>> > laboratory we keep the correct and updated information that can then be
>> > completed or linked with other data.
>> >
>> > We receive a high percentage of undocumented people, people with a national
>> > identity document but no social security, and foreigners with foreign
>> > documentation, and we must treat them properly.
>> >
>> > In our current scheme at the emergency sector, demographic data, as 
>> > address,
>> > phone, postal code, family, etc. get filled later.
>> >
>> > I can give you more info about that, but now you have an idea of what I am
>> > talking about.
>> >
>> > regards
>> > ---
>> > Alejandro
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi Alejandro, you mention "same old
>> > > basic problems" can you expand on
>> > > that for me?
>> > >
>> > > Tim
>> > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 21:17, Alejandrode Garate via
>> > >Care2002-developers <care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  > Hi Tim
>> >  > It's been a couple of years since
>> >  I last used this project.
>> >  > I am seeing the same old basic
>> >  problems for which care2x is not used in South America.
>> >  > I have been working in public
>> >  hospitals for more than 30 years, so (at least
>> >  > for this part of the world) I know
>> >  what I'm talking about.
>> >  >
>> >  > Have you a roadmap about future
>> >  changes or what you think should be changed
>> >  > in the immediate future ?
>> >  >
>> >  > At what stage is the
>> >  modularization ?
>> >  > ---
>> >  > Alejandro
>> >  >
>> >
>> >
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