Hi Kaj, While I think most people on this mailing list can certainly share your frustrations with getting the toolflow to work, I think it's important to emphasize that this is an open collaboration that many contribute to without it strictly speaking being part of their critical work duties.
As such, writing and maintaining documentation and testing toolflow functionality across all configurations of operating systems and software versions is difficult. However we do try our best at these things, and definitely try to help however we can whenever someone faces an issue that has either not been documented or even just not yet encountered by developers. The PRP stuff was presented at the 2021 CASPER conference, and has yet to make it's way into our docs. But as Jonathon has said, we do have a CASPER slack, with a PRP channel, and other channels where more help could potentially be found. Morag On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, 21:37 Kaj Wiik, <kaj.w...@utu.fi> wrote: > Hm, I have never heard about PRP cloud, what is that? > > I went to the web address and got to login without any further information. > > If this is a service that is open for all, why it is not documented? If it > is > not open for all, why even write about it to a public mailing list?? > > I am sorry but I start to be quite frustrated after months of wasted time > trying > to get Casper RFSoC toolchain to work and testing several paths that prove > to be > dead ends. I am now very close to give up and move to other projects > (sorry > Talvikki). > > Respectfully, > Kaj > > On 21/02/2022 20:25, Jonathon Kocz wrote: > > As a quick reminder to all, don't forget that the PRP cloud version of > CASPER > > exists these days as well! (Login here: > https://casper.nautilus.optiputer.net/ > > <https://casper.nautilus.optiputer.net/>). > > > > In addition to the normal toolflow, Vivado 2020.1 is now installed (I > know that > > 2020.2 is recommended for RFSoC, but 2020.1 should work as well: use the > > m2019a-cloud branch rather than m2019a, this has the downgraded tcl > files so > > they run in 2020.1). > > > > For RFSoC work, use the startsg.cloud.2020.local file instead of > > startsg.cloud.local. > > > > You will also at this point not be able to use the Vitis backend side of > things > > (leave the JASPER_BACKEND as Vivado). I will look into installing Vitis. > > > > I ran some tests this morning, and was able to compile an fpg for a > ZCU111. > > (zcu111_tut_platform). > > > > If you use the PRP cloud, I also encourage you to join the CASPER slack > (if you > > have not already), and post questions / problems on the #prp-cloud > channel. - > > Please just let me know if you need an invite. > > > > Best, > > Jonathon > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 04:58, Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@sarao.ac.za > > <mailto:aisaac...@sarao.ac.za>> wrote: > > > > Hi Kaj and Wesley, > > > > You are both right. The Python upgrades have proved a problem and it > would > > help to list it in the documents. > > > > The requirements.txt can be too general though using versions "<" or > ">". > > > > RFSOC is a new development, so I understand there could be bugs. I > was more > > referring to the older developments. My email was not aimed at anyone > > particular :). I learnt my lesson over the years (or maybe I didn't) > and > > with SKARAB. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, 1:32 PM Wesley New, <wes...@sarao.ac.za > > <mailto:wes...@sarao.ac.za>> wrote: > > > > Hi Kaj, > > > > There is generally a requirements.txt in the root of the > mlib_devel > > which should list any python dependencies and > appropriate versions. I am > > not sure how well this is kept uptodate though. > > > > Regards > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Kaj Wiik <kjw...@utu.fi > > <mailto:kjw...@utu.fi>> wrote: > > > > Hi Adam, > > > > I am sorry but I missed your reply too. > > > > The reason for us to experiment with different versions was > to get > > RFSoC (specifically ZCU111) stuff working (by following the > > documentation in > > > https://github.com/casper-astro/tutorials_devel/blob/master/docs/tutorials/rfsoc/tut_getting_started.md > > < > https://github.com/casper-astro/tutorials_devel/blob/master/docs/tutorials/rfsoc/tut_getting_started.md > > > > ). If I understand correctly, the original toolflow in the > casper > > repo does not (yet) support RFSoC's? > > > > We will now try to get the Ubuntu 20.04 based versions > working, > > thanks Mitch, because Ubuntu 20.04 will be supported longer > (perhaps > > until my retirement ;-)). I still have the 18.04 container > so I > > could try out your repo too. > > > > I think one of the main problems is that after one group gets > > everything working, there will be Python package upgrades > that later > > installers get (without intention) and suddenly the toolflow > is not > > working anymore. I think it would be very useful if the > versions of > > all Python packages of a working setup would be listed in the > > documentation. > > > > Many thanks to all who support and develop the Casper > toolchain, it > > certainly is not an easy task! > > > > Best regards, > > Kaj > > > > On 2/21/22 12:22, Adam Isaacson wrote: > > > Hi Casperites, > > > > > > I hope you are well. I have been reading the mail list > and there > > are lots of queries about which version of Ubuntu, Python, > Matlab > > and Simulink. > > > > > > We have documented this quite well on our Casper website, > but I > > have noticed that some people try it on Windows, different > versions > > and expect it to work first time around. > > > > > > My honest opinion is that the odds of this working would > be > > slight. My advice is to rather stick to the mentioned > versions, as > > those have been tested. You are welcome to try new versions, > but my > > feeling is that it mostly won't work. My advice is to stick > to the > > software versions. > > > > > > SARAO and CASPER spend a lot of time testing with specific > > versions. We then move onto other projects and move onto > newer > > software versions. This is more efficient in my opinion. 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