If you’re asking isn’t the pressure on the forward block roughly the same as
the block that is feeding it then the answer is yes, but only because the
line it turning a similar angle through the block. As Keith pointed out with
his Harken reference (I was too lazy to go look for it) the number of
degrees a line turns through a block has a huge impact on the block’s load. 

 

The easiest way to illustrate this is with a bungee cord. If stretch a
bungee to 40 lbs and hook it on a fixed ring the force on the ring would be
40 lbs. Hook an identical cord exactly the same and the force is 80 lbs or
double. The same is true for a 180° bend through a block. If the line
pressure is 40 ponds it will be the same on both sides a free turning block
and there fore on each leg which is double like two bungee cords. So it’s 2x
on a 180° bend.

 

Now remove one bungee and push in the middle of the remaining cord until it
deflects 5 degrees. You’ll not it only takes a fraction of the 40 pounds to
deflect the center of the cord a few degrees. So the angle of deflection
plays a major roll in the force on the block even though the pressure on the
line is constant through the control line.  

 

Phil Agur                              s/v Wing Tip

Secretary/Treasurer     Call Sign WCW3485

IC27/270A                          MMSI 366901790 

 <http://www.catalina27.org/> www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe McCary
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Traveler sheeting

 

I have a boom vang (the image pictured is not my boat), but I find it near
impossible to adjust under any load.  The 3:1 block just isn’t enough in
anything but ultra light air.  

 

About my question about the pressure on the forward block (see picture in
link below), isn’t it the same force as the #3 block in the sheets (mid
boom)?  

 

My new (uninstalled as yet) traveler is also the new straight Garhauer
traveler.  It seems massive!

 

Joe McCary

Aeolus II #4795

West River, MD

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm no engineer, but I would think it is.  Its only purpose is as a turning
block.  It doesn't have the same pressures as the ones between the boom and
traveler.

 

I had the original curved track traveler so I re-aligned my mainsheet
control to the traveler car.  Now that I have the straight track travaler
(Garhauer; fantastic!), I don't need to keep it there but I still do.

 

You should seriously consider adding a boom vang.  The midboom doesn't hold
the boom down quite as good as the end-boom.  Your sail shape will be much
better with a vang.

 

Bob

 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Joe McCary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

As they say a picture is worth a million words (hey I am a photographer so
I tend to inflate the value of a photo a bit). The image I am referring to
is:

http://www.delanges.com/Catalina_27/images/Traveler_2.JPG 

Its from Steve’s website and shows his mid boom traveler. My rig will be
slightly different, with double ended sheeting. The folks at Catalina Direct
suggested I run the sheet from the edge of the cabin top (near the handrail)
forward to a spinnaker block on a spring then at a 45° to the first blocks
on the boom and so on. In the image above, while just single sided, he runs
his sheet to the mast then down through a turning block then to a deck
organizer then to the cleet. My question to Steve was, it appears the block
closest to the mast is held in position by a small stainless strap with just
2 sheet metal screws instead of a full through bolted bail on the boom, is
this strong enough?

 

Joe McCary

Aeolus II
West River, MD

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Cruiseair on C27-alternative method

 

Joe,

you should have a boom vang running at 45* from the boom to near mast base.
Running the mainsheet across this same area then makes sense, plus
eliminating one block from the whole setup.

 

I think you can see what I mean from pictures on my out-of-date website:
mywebpages.comcast.net/sailrmann

 

Bob Mann

Windcatcher

'85 #5928

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