uh oh so it starts again heck as far as I'm concerned if it gets in and out of port it's the right motor.
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:34:10 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: catalina27-talk: Advice for a potential C27 buyerTo: [email protected] RossNote how many of the problems that Russ finds with the C-27 are the direct result of having difficulty with servicing the engine. I've been helping crew at the servicings of the engines aboard a 30' J and a Pearson 32. Things were not much improved there: I found myself in awkward and painful postures over long periods on both occasions. The only real relief was on my friend Chris' 42' Challanger. On it we could step down into a compartment and work on the engine standing up. My skipper on the J30--29, really-- solved these issues by being a successful lawyer and having his engine maintenance, all of it, done by the maintenance crew of his yard.So I'm opening a can of worms, ritually opened each spring. Why in the world, short of chartering your boat, would you want an inboard engine? I bought Phoenix partly because I know that fixing an inboard costs, on a fair average, three times as much as servicing an outboard. And then you have to drag a slowing prop (minus1 kt for a fixed prop, minus at least 1/4kt for a folding prop. ). In five years I've spent $600 on fixing my engine, and that's only because at 74 years old I do have a difficult time working even on an outboard. So I have a pro come in. And I have a noisier, gas inefficient engine, on purpose because it has only three moving parts (vs ca 23 for the four stroke). Apart from the results of my ignorance induced engine difficulties (My own race boat was an enginless Thistle), my Evinrude 97 has been very reliable.There are now 2 stroke outboards that are quiet and gas efficient, but they cost almost as much as my boat , so they are for successful lawers to buy, I guess, certainly not for retired teachers.Rudy B.Russ Dearmore wrote: Ross, I'm only 5'9" and 195 and although I love my 27' I am really weary of the bending and twisting involved with any activities done below. I'd ask myself how much time I would spend single handing the boat. If you would usually have someone to help crew (wife?) then I'd enthusiastically recommend the 30. The 27' inboard is very difficult to work on. Slide into the port side cockpit locker and see if you have a prayer of a chance to inspect the transmission fluid. Every time I get in there I spend 2 days of bed rest because of a back operation. Sleeping is not comfortable to me but again it may be due to the back. In short, I'd get a very used 30' and improve it as budget restraints allow. It will be much more enjoyable for the wife (extremely important, I can't emphasize this critical point enough) and your enjoyment will be enhanced also. It's amazing what some fiberglass work and paint will do to make a tired looking boat look nearly new...... As Ralph so accurately pointed out the head routine is not to be underestimated. The 30 is basically just a more enjoyable boat. Put your money in improvements on the right size boat so as not to lose the work you put into your first boat. It's sad to see all that labor and money go to the next owners wallet. Bargains are out there so just be patient. Hope I haven't angered to many 27 lovers because for it's size, it's the best........ Ross Aresco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I'd appreciate some advice here. I've been researching diligently for the best first boat for my wife and me (no kids just yet) and have had my heart set for a while on a C30. However, with trying to save up for starting a family, etc. I'm thinking that it may be the best decision financially to start with a more typical (and cheaper) "starter boat" and then move up in a few years, versus spending at least $10-20K more for a C30 and moving right to the boat that we could grow into. Yes, I know that if you amortize that over a number of years it doesn't add up to much, but it does right now. How do you like your C27s? I've never sailed one - but they're clearly super popular and can handle a variety of conditions. For the same accoutrements that we'd like (newer sail inventory, well maintained engine, pressure hot/cold water, generally well maintained boat) you can land a C27 for so much less than a C30, I'm thinking that this makes more and more sense. Part of my apprehension, however, is that I'm 6'3" 260lbs and I'm a bit worried about feeling like Will Ferrell in Elf while onboard! We're in Erie, PA so we'd ideally like to do a lot of day/evening sailing, some weekly club racing and ideally do some weekend trips west past Cleveland and north to Canada. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! ~Ross Change your thinking, change your life. We are guided, we are guarded, we are healed, we are blessed..... _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
