Jim, Try right clicking on it and select "Save As..." and save it instead of opening it directly. Drop me a note if you are still having problems and I'll email it to you this evening.
Chris Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: James Huhta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:11:37 To: <[email protected]> Subject: catalina27-talk: Challenge for Chris Maddox Chris......Thanx for the quick response. I'm not a computer expert by any means. (GREAT sailor tho...) I got to "Aria Links" and clicked on the hypertext C27rigtension.xls by "Carl Schaefer's C27 rig tension tables" and got a MS alert that says "File couldn't be found". HELP! After an hour of skeee-ruee-eeeing-around, I thought I'd ask you for the help. Thanx. Jim Huhta "Sea-130" Sturgeon Bay WI --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Chris Maddox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Chris Maddox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question on Shroud Hook-up Locations > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 8:15 AM > Jim, > > I have a spreadsheet with some good data, I think it > includes TRs - see near the top of the page at > http://www.ariasails.com/links.html > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > >From: James Huhta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Jul 7, 2008 9:07 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question on > Shroud Hook-up Locations > > > >Good Info......Anyone out there know what he Loos Gauge > readings should be for a Cat 27 Tall Rig? Standing rigging > is si important for strutural integrity. I run with a > perhaps too loose a standing rigging; maybe I > shouldn't. > > > >Fair Winds ...... Jim Huhta S/V "SEA 130" > Hull 4402 Sturgeon Bay, WI > > > > > > > >--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Harvey Rosenberg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> From: Harvey Rosenberg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question > on Shroud Hook-up Locations > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 3:10 PM > >> Hi Phil, > >> > >> When I read the word "failure" I gulped. > I sort > >> of understand what you are saying, but what is the > solution > >> for the C-27 rig. > >> > >> > >> ------ Original Message ------ > >> Received: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 03:57:21 PM EDT > >> From: "Phil A" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question > on > >> Shroud Hook-up Locations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> When you tighten the fore stay, back stay, and > upper > >> shrouds the mast want to flex out of column, like > squeezing > >> a flat tooth pick from its ends. Squeeze too much > and snap. > >> > >> > >> > >> You can see what mast pumping is by squeezing > the tooth > >> pick slowly (safety glasses please) in a C-Clamp > and then > >> gently try to move the middle back to straight. It > will act > >> like an over center spring and want to move to > anywhere but > >> straight. Without tensioned lowers the mast acts > like the > >> tooth pick and it wants to be anywhere but > straight. Add > >> the forces of sailing whether it’s the roll of > the waves > >> or chop or a sail buffeting and these force at > time may > >> move the center of the mast column to ward center > where it > >> doesn’t want to stay so instead of loading up > cleanly it > >> pumps back and forth. Let the pumping continue and > it can > >> work harden the aluminum at the flex point leading > to > >> failure. > >> > >> > >> > >> The lowers are there to keep the mast in > column, > >> although mast tuning for performance may require > an > >> intentional bow known as pre-bend. Even when > pre-bend is > >> used the center of the column is restrained from > moving > >> about so the loads are taken cleanly, without > pumping. > >> > >> > >> > >> Higher performance rigs start using quickly > adjustable > >> standing rigging known as various types of running > stays > >> but each adds to the risk of a demasting, as well > as, > >> adding to performance. Your local PHRF authority > will > >> penalize you for the modification, if it is > allowed at all. > >> Of course it is not allowed at all in one-design > racing. The > >> factory added adjustable rear lowers (baby stays) > to the > >> Santana 20 design at some point and these appear > were > >> accepted by their one-design rules and the change > escaped > >> PHRF scrutiny but that’s an exception. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip > >> Secretary, Call Sign > WCW3485 > >> IC27/270A MMSI > 366901790 > >> www.catalina27.org Vessel Doc# > 1039809 > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > >> iicaptbrad > >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:42 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick > Question on > >> Shroud Hook-up Locations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Harvey, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I was going to ask a question which you may > have > >> touched on in your second paragraph. Mast > pumping. When > >> I'm sitting on my boat at the dock while just > a > >> moderate breeze blows, the boat occassionally > vibrates from > >> the rigging. I was wondering if this is normal > and if the > >> rigging might be too tight or loose or out of > adjustment. > >> The standing rigging seems tight, all shrouds and > stays, > >> and the mast stands straight if not for a slight > forward > >> tilt (not noticable unless you hang a plumb bob). > I've > >> gazed at the rigging while this vibration is > happening on > >> several occassions and noticed, I think, the mast > vibrating > >> fore and aft around the spreaders which leads me > to believe > >> the lowers are loose, but they are tight like a > violin > >> string. Is this what you mean by mast pumping? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Brad > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Harvey Rosenberg > >> > >> > >> > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:58 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: > catalina27-talk: Re: > >> Quick Question on Shroud Hook-up Locations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Andy, > >> Who is doing the shrouds? Is it George > over at > >> Samalot Marine? I can't believe he would do > that. He > >> must be thinking of Hunter B&R rigs. Our mast > is not a > >> bendable mast. You can adjust shoud tension and > rake, but > >> not bending it. It has to stay in column in all > four > >> directions. The foreward shrouds supports this. > Leading it > >> aft would put more stress on the leading edge of > the mast > >> when going upwind. > >> > >> C-27's are known for their mast pumping > at dock > >> in high winds and this would certainly aggravate > this > >> condition. > >> > >> Take him on a walk over at the South docks > and look > >> at the other C-27's. . > >> > >> Where is your boat. I couldn't find it? > >> > >> Regards Harvey Rosenberg C-27TR #6023, 1985 > M-18 > >> > >> Harvey Rosenberg C-27TR > >> > >> > >> ------ Original Message ------ > >> Received: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:59:07 PM EDT > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick > Question on > >> Shroud Hook-up Locations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To List > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a quick question. I am having > the shrouds > >> change on my boat (....along with a great deal of > other > >> work, Boat fell off its stanchions this past > March) and > >> while the marina was setting up the new shrouds, > he placed > >> the lower forward shroud at the same spot as the > upper > >> shroud. He now had the forward lower and the > center upper > >> on the same spot where I thought the upper should > be alone, > >> and the stern lower in the correct spot. I > questioned him > >> on this and he said that the center was designed > to take > >> the forward lower shroud and the center shroud and > the > >> stern lower shroud stands alone. I always though > that all > >> three had their on spot for hook-up. Am I wrong? > The > >> marina guy seemed to be sure of his answer and > mentioned > >> that he has done this hook-up on several Catalina > 27's > >> before. I hope this explanation makes sense with > all the > >> upper and lower words used!!! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> Andy > >> > >> > >> > >> Slow "MO" tion #6038 > >> > >> > >> > >> Nyack, NY > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> the world a better place one > message at a > >> time. Check out the i'm Talkathon. = > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL > Autos for > >> fuel-efficient used cars. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> postamble(); > > > > > > > >
