Most of the 52's are frac hoists, 7/8ths, although I think one of the early boats, maybe Pegasus, was closer to masthead like 15/16ths. Anyway, they get most of their drive in their roachy mains, so to see one being feathered like that should be a tell that it's okay to depower the foward sections of this foil and live on the flat, trailing edges of the main's leech sections.

This whole topic has come up, coincidently, lately as I was talking to someone in a big boat OD class a few weeks ago and they said the very same thing...in a breeze they are putting the trav down somewhat and vang on hard to let the breeze power up the aft sections of the main...the forward half can do whatever it wants including luff and invert battens.

Sounds sucky in theory but it's hard to argue with the guy holding the pickle dish.

tf




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great vid (but I think it would loose some punch without the audio). And while I don't think anyone would ever compare a C27 to a TP52, I will say that of all the racing communities in the country I am pretty sure that Annapolis has the most active C27 fleet. That being said I have raced on 7 different boats in the fleet and all dump the main when over powered. And I don't imagine that there are many others that are as competent at making a boat go fast and be able to climb up the ladder than the folks I race with and against. I don't even consider myself in the same league as the guys that consistantly win high point here although I have raced with all of them, but I can observe and learn pretty well. So whether anyone agrees with it in theory or not, please come play with us some day when it is blowing 10-15 and hope it builds to 20+ and you will experience exactly what I have been talking about. Tim has raced with us and several other C27s in the area (including of course his own), but I don't know if he has experienced above conditions or if his experience is the same. In a message dated 7/27/2008 5:41:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

    Just to pile on here, and support what Chris says, check out this
    vid from
    Quantum showing how they sail their TP52 upwind.

    http://www.quantumsails.com/

    This is in a pretty big breeze and about 3 minutes into the vid,
    note the
    main breathing and the top battens inverting. Is this slow? I dont
    think
    so...Quantum just won the Audi MedCup Circuit in what is
    undoubtedly the
    most competitive European (if not the world) big boat one design
    fleet.

    anyway, cool vid - turn the sound down if you are not a Ledd Zepp fan!

    tf



    >When the wind pipes up and we
    > are
    > unable to change out the headsails we just dump the main and let
    the jib
    > power
    > the boat.  If we can change out the headsail the vast majority
    of the
    > boats
    > will change to a 135-140 and keep the full main in place.  Again
    just
    > dump the
> main and let the headsail power the boat. This is a Chesapeake Bay set
    > up
    > where we rarely experience more than 20 other than in  storms
    and they are
    > usually short lived.





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