What kind of boat do you have that weighs only 5700 lb? My '84 displaces 6850 
lb, w/ M-18 Diesel. I heard that the disp. grew over the years, but 1150 lb. is 
a big jump!

Art Herrick
#5468
Sea Change


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil A 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:53 PM
  Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Hull speed


  That's consistent with my wife's record of 8.4 knots on Wing Tip. Broad reach 
in 25 -30 knots with no sea.



  Of course that's nothing compared to my 85 when the CHP just shook his head.



  Instead of using 1.34 a C27 uses a factor more like 1.5 resulting in a 6.92 
knot hull speed.



        Disp. =
       5700
       Lbs.
       
       
       
       
       
       
        LWL=
       21.75
       Ft.
       
       Dave Gerr - The Nature of Boats
       
       
        D/L =
       247
       
       
       Eq #1: D/L=(weight/2240)/(0.01 * LWL)^3
       
        S/L =
       1.49
       
       
       Eq#2: S/L = 8.26/(D/L)^0.311
       
       
        Adv. Hull Speed=
       6.94
       Knots
       
       Eq#3: Hullspeed = S/L * LWL^0.5
       
        Traditional HS=
       6.25
       Knots
       
       Assumes S/L= 1.34
       
       
       



  And of course TF may have been dogging it since square root of 34.5 (LWL) x 
1.5 = 8.81 kn. If the J Boat hull was higher tech than a typical Catalina then 
reduced weight could force it higher.



  I know I may be stretching my credibility here but I didn't write the book. 
Remember Pyewacket didn't shatter Merlin's 12 year Tran Pac record until they 
had a computerized Polar performance program nagging the crew when they were 
slow. And then they shaved off a full day. A full day! 



  Just knowing you're slow is a major part of the battle to win. Never settle 
for traditional hull speed again unless you're sailing a traditional 
construction boat. 



  Phil Agur                     s/v Wing Tip
  Secretary,                    Call Sign WCW3485
  IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
  www.catalina27.org     Vessel Doc# 1039809



  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:10 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Hull speed



  or slightly above hull speed...



  was on a J122 today and (just very slightly cracked off) saw 8.4 knots,

  upwind

  in a 15 kn breeze.



  hull speed plus



  tf

  pix and it happened



  square root of 34.5 (LWL) x 1.34 = 7.88 kn





  >

  > Weight maters but I'll have to hunt for the advanced hull speed formula.

  >

  > Phil Agur                     s/v Wing Tip

  > Secretary,                    Call Sign WCW3485

  > IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790

  > www.catalina27.org     Vessel Doc# 1039809

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