> > Thank you Jody for this information. Some birds must escape with these > "peepers" on though. But I appreciate the clarification. I knew someone > would provide the answer. > > Still don't like the concept of captive raised birds released for hunting > but there's much in the world that I disagree with. That's just me. > > Linda > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Jody W Enck <j...@cornell.edu> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just to set the record straight – none of the pheasants >> released into the wild ever have the plastic blinders on. Indeed, none of >> the pheasants that are hatched at the game farm and then released ever have >> blinders on – that would be impractical. It is only the adults maintained >> at the game farm for breeding stock that have blinders on. Hope this helps >> increase understanding. >> >> >> >> Jody Enck >> >> >> >> Jody W. Enck, PhD. >> >> Research Associate, Human Dimensions Research Unit >> >> Department of Natural Resources >> >> Cornell University >> >> phone 607-255-8192 >> >> web www.dnr.cornell.edu/hdru/ >> >> >> >> From: bounce-8672743-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> [mailto:bounce-8672743-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Orkin >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:07 PM >> To: cayugabirds >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> game farm? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just want to add this, which may cause more controversy or be disapproved >> by Chris, but I have heard there is close to a 99% mortality rate within a >> month for these pheasants when they are released and those blinders are not >> removed (at least according to list serve info from last year) and I can't >> imagine a one of us that would want to live in their circumstances, out in >> all weather, with blinders on, in incredibly close quarters and being >> "stalked" by around 60 hungry RTH who have been suffering themselves with >> snow covered fields for two months. >> >> But I will choose to take John Confer's perspective for now and be glad that >> the RTH can find some sustenance. >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> wrote: >> >> I don't think I've ever seen one of those hawks with a mouse or rat. Lots >> of pheasants, though. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> [mailto:bounce-8672579-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Gallagher >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:29 PM >> To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu >> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> game farm? >> >> True. I know those birds catch a lot of mice, etc., that are attracted there >> by the grain. And Cooper's Hawks catch pigeons, starlings, and House >> Sparrows there, which are also attracted by the grain. >> >> Tim Gallagher >> Editor-in-Chief >> LIVING BIRD >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> 159 Sapsucker Woods Road >> Ithaca, New York 14850 >> (607) 254-2443 >> t...@cornell.edu >> ________________________________________ >> From: bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu >> [bounce-8672541-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans >> [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:23 PM >> To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> game farm? >> >> What I guess we don't know is what proportion of their diet it pheasant >> versus rodent. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Orkin" <wingmagi...@gmail.com> >> To: "Chris Tessaglia-Hymes" <c...@cornell.edu> >> Cc: <cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu> >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> game farm? >> >> >> Yes. I totally agree Chris. And what a totally unnatural environment and >> conditions, with those blinders on and totally exposed to all inclement >> weather. >> >> Linda >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <c...@cornell.edu> wrote: >> >> > Wouldn't these Red-tailed Hawks primarily be targeting the weak or sick; >> > the >> > ones that might die off (in this unnatural environment) anyway? >> > >> > -- >> > Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes >> > TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer >> > Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> > 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 >> > W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 >> > http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu >> > [mailto:bounce-8672169-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Tim >> > Gallagher >> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:19 PM >> > To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu >> > Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> > game farm? >> > >> > I've seen red-tails eating pheasants there several times, and the people >> > who >> > work there have told me that they often see them catch them. >> > >> > Tim Gallagher >> > Editor-in-Chief >> > LIVING BIRD >> > Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> > 159 Sapsucker Woods Road >> > Ithaca, New York 14850 >> > (607) 254-2443 >> > t...@cornell.edu >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu >> > [bounce-8672008-10557...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans >> > [wrev...@clarityconnect.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM >> > To: cayugabirds-l >> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Why don't RTHA eat all the pheasants at the >> > game farm? >> > >> > Has anyone ever seen a hawk take/eat a pheasant at the game farm? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> > >> > ARCHIVES: >> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> > 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> > 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> > >> > Please submit your observations to eBird: >> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> > >> > ARCHIVES: >> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> > 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> > 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> > >> > Please submit your observations to eBird: >> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> > >> > -- >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> >> >>
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