I had originally intended to send this message to the whole list serve, but instead it just went to Wes (who said he had covered a large area and not heard any more Dickcissels nor any Henslow's Sparrows).

In Dave Nicosia's photo series 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/7503141742/in/set-72157630423796014/
which I believe is of a single bird, the black patch varies in shape, sometimes a rectangle (the way it usually appeared to me), or a triangle, a stripe, or a crescent, so the shape of the throat patch doesn't seem the best way to track individuals. 

Seneca Meadows Wetland Preserve is huge. It takes time and dedication to check it out thoroughly. There's room for a lot whatever birds like that prairie habitat. It wouldn't surprise me if we find (this year or later years) a substantial colony of Dickcissels. A Grasshopper Sparrow was also heard here. I think this is also a place to check for Henslow's Sparrow. The habitat is much like Neal Smith NWR east of Des Moines, Iowa, where I most recently saw Henslow's.  

I'm glad the maps at Seneca Meadows have names for the trails. That may help us describe the locations. Unfortunately some of the satellite photos in eBird are a few years old and show the farm fields instead of the ponds, trails, and prairie which has been restored. It's odd to see it switch while zooming in & out.
--Dave Nutter

On Jul 05, 2012, at 03:24 PM, Lee Ann van Leer <l...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Based on the distance apart we heard males singing we were guessing there were probably 3 males. However for eBird I only entered in 2 just in case the male at the big oak happened to have moved to Main Loop at the point we were hearing 2 birds singing.  As you can see from Kevin's photo the bird had a black bib. When I was viewing it in scope it didn't appear to extend down the breast to a V but seemed rounded just a bib.  I was comparing it to Sibley & the drawings and photos in iBird app. I'm not sure how often one views/finds the males that have the full V or the line of black that goes down to the center of the chest that is shown in those pictures and drawings.

 

This was the first Dickcissel I ever saw and I was quite pleased.  I think there could be several Dickcissels there but not sure we'll see or hear them all. The news from Jay McGowan of the female carrying nesting material is exciting.

 

Ever since I completed the Bander Training Course at Braddock Bay Bird Observatory in May, my notions of what birds are findable has changed.  While doing net runs I would hear all sorts of bird species singing or see birds that we were NOT catching in the nets that day.  For instance Blackpolls were singing everywhere for a couple of days before we were catching any in the nets. The same thing happened with Black-throated Blue Warblers.

 

Conversely,  and more surprising to me,  we were catching all sorts of numbers and species of birds in the nets that neither I nor one of my top notch birder classmates were seeing or hearing on those days.  There seemed to be not very much correlation between what was being seen and heard vs. what we were catching.  It makes me wonder how many silent and hidden birds

go unnoticed.

 

I'm not sure if any studies have been done comparing mist netting totals to birding census totals but I'm thinking of perhaps doing

something like that sometime. 

 

Perhaps some of the birders on this list that also have done mist netting can verify if they have similar experiences.

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