Heartly concur John. Count me as a bander who has both noted this and had 
research
muddled by such exact descriptions.
john
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On Thu, January 15, 2015 16:03, John Confer wrote:
> HI Folks,
>
>      The barn door is open or the cat is out of the bag, BUT I HAVE A
> CONCERN ABOUT DESCRIBING LOCATIONS OF N GOSHAWK WHEN THEY ACT SOMEWHAT
> AS IF THEY HAD A TERRITORY. Northern Goshawk are known among banders who
> climb to hawk nests to frequently abandon a nest, especially early in
> the nesting cycle, although not so much after the young have
> hatched.Individual birds can become accustomed to human disturbance at a
> low level and provide an exception. Other birds that rarely see humans
> may well abandon a nest if disturbed. At this time of year, they
> probably haven't started laying and, even if the bird is considering
> nesting nearby, at this time of the year the bird might just move away.
> However, if they did start to nest and someone visited the well
> described site a couple months from now, the bird might abandon eggs.
>
>      I know there is an excitement in seeing a good bird, and it is very
> nice to share providing a very good motivation to share a siting with
> others, e.g., the Schofield Short-eared Owls, which do not seem to be at
> all disturbed by humans watching them in a car. Other species of birds
> may have reduced nesting success if people visit them, and goshawk are
> known to be so affected. Discretion in individual circumstances is advised.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On 1/15/2015 11:14 AM, Donna Scott wrote:
>> Where is Foster Pond, please?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Donna Scott
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass <cedarsh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:cedarsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I went birding at Foster Pond this afternoon, because high twenties
>>> feels like spring compared to the last few days. Past the frozen pond
>>> and down Backbone trail I ventured into the brushy field to get a
>>> better look at some waxwings when I flushed a Northern Goshawk from
>>> low cover. Life Bird! She (I'm guessing based on the size) perched in
>>> a small tree and posed for a long time. Excellent views. Adult with a
>>> bright eyestripe. I took pictures until my hands and toes went numb.
>>> She never flew away. As I was returning to the trail two Common
>>> Ravens flew over calling. Awesome Day!
>>> Photos:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/123875591@N03/16096262487/in/photostream/
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/123875591@N03/15662257883/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> Sorry I didn't post earlier, but I have a dumb phone.
>>> Good birding!
>>> Josh
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