Anyone have favorite accommodations or recommendations for birding on block island? Much appreciated.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2017, at 12:05 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest > <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> wrote: > > CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Thursday, August 17, 2017. > > 1. When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 2. Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management > Plan > 3. FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan > 4. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 5. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 6. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles - clarification > 7. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 8. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 9. other food for birds > 10. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 11. RE: other food for birds > 12. Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > 13. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 14. Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > 15. RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:02:18 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 1 > > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar > water and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar >> >> >> >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > From: Dave Gislason <dgif...@yahoo.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:10:54 +0000 (UTC) > X-Message-Number: 2 > > They're just telling us about this now, but they've been working at it for a > couple of years at least. Living close by, I've seen 3 areas turned into YFIs > (one a camping area), and 3 areas of clear-cutting. There other areas with > the telltale Blue paint marks indicating "treatments" to come. I would say > that communication with the public has been quite poor so far. Only recently > did they construct a couple of message boards with a flyer on the Young > forest Initiatives -after they had cut down many trees. Maybe they've been > barraged with questions and/or complaints. > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:03:46 AM EDT, Martha Fischer > <m...@cornell.edu> wrote: > > Here’s an FYI… > There's a new post at TownOfEnfield.org. Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan > Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:00 p.m. > Newfield Fire Dept., 77 Main St. Newfield, NY > NYSDEC will host an open house to provide information on a recently finalized > habitat management plan for Connecticut hill Wildlife Management Area located > in the Towns of Catherine, Cayuta and Hector, ... > You may view the latest post at > http://townofenfield.org/meeting-on-connecticut-hill-wildlife-management-plan/ > You received this e-mail because you asked to be notified when new updates > are posted. > > Thank you. > Town of Enfield > > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > From: John Confer <con...@ithaca.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:25:37 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 3 > > The DEC periodically updates management plans for each forest unit. I don’t > know the details of Connecticut Hill, but I did become involved with the > Hammond Hill plans. I met with DEC personnel to suggest some alterations in > their plans for successional habitat. On balance I strongly support them. The > intention is to create habitat that supports a greater diversity of wildlife. > In particular, for Hammond Hill State Forest there is a conscious attempt to > create more early succession habitat by forest cutting. The background is > that in New York most forest species are increasing while most successional > species are declining. Even so called forest species frequently use or even > require successional habitat for part of the annual diet. Bear fatten on > berries, turkey feed their poults on seeds of successional plants, tanagers > feed on berries, and deer browse on small woody stems as an important and > perhaps critical winter food. etc. Of course, early successional habitat > supports a variety of early successional species, but it also provides forage > for deer and many other forest species for parts of their annual life. I > offer these thoughts after 35 years of research on successional species. I > wouldn’t throw out the baby with the bath water on this effort. > > John Confer > > From: bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Gislason > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:11 PM > To: Martha Fischer <m...@cornell.edu>; CAYUGABIRDS-L > <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut > Hill Wildlife Management Plan > > They're just telling us about this now, but they've been working at it for a > couple of years at least. Living close by, I've seen 3 areas turned into YFIs > (one a camping area), and 3 areas of clear-cutting. There other areas with > the telltale Blue paint marks indicating "treatments" to come. I would say > that communication with the public has been quite poor so far. Only recently > did they construct a couple of message boards with a flyer on the Young > forest Initiatives -after they had cut down many trees. Maybe they've been > barraged with questions and/or complaints. > > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:03:46 AM EDT, Martha Fischer > <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > > > Here’s an FYI… > > There's a new post at TownOfEnfield.org. Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan > Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:00 p.m. > Newfield Fire Dept., 77 Main St. Newfield, NY > NYSDEC will host an open house to provide information on a recently finalized > habitat management plan for Connecticut hill Wildlife Management Area located > in the Towns of Catherine, Cayuta and Hector, ... > You may view the latest post at > http://townofenfield.org/meeting-on-connecticut-hill-wildlife-management-plan/ > You received this e-mail because you asked to be notified when new updates > are posted. > > Thank you. > Town of Enfield > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: "Marie P. Read" <m...@cornell.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:26:39 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 4 > > After they've left on migration! > Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what you > were worried about. > > Marie > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608 > e-mail m...@cornell.edu > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu > [bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Peter > [psara...@rochester.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM > To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:46:54 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 5 > > And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory > hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. > > https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu> wrote: >> >> After they've left on migration! >> Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what >> you were worried about. >> >> Marie >> >> Marie Read Wildlife Photography >> 452 Ringwood Road >> Freeville NY 13068 USA >> >> Phone 607-539-6608 >> e-mail m...@cornell.edu >> >> Website: http://www.marieread.com >> Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife- >> Photography-104356136271727/ >> ________________________________________ >> From: bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-121727479-5851667@ >> list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Peter [psara...@rochester.rr.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM >> To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles >> >> Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar >> water and orioles jelly? >> Thanks >> Pete Sar >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/ >> CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@ >> cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! >> -- >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun > and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born > into the world to enjoy" Plutarch > > If you permit > this evil, what is the good > of the good of your life? > > -Stanley Kunitz... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles - clarification > From: "Marie P. Read" <m...@cornell.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:42:42 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 6 > > I guess I am a bit too literal-minded and misunderstood what Pete was asking. > > In answer to a slightly different question "When is the latest that > hummingbirds and orioles are around so that I can take down my feeders (which > at that point may or may not be attracting any birds anyway)? ": for > hummingbirds my experience has been the middle to the end of September, I > usually have hummingbirds up until September 19th or so. For orioles, I > couldn't say but maybe someone else could offer an opinion. > > A slight diversion, I had a family of orioles feeding in the trumpet vines in > my yard...they seemed to be pecking at the base of each open > flower...presumably to get at the nectar inside (although maybe to get > insects too?). Anyway I enjoyed seeing this cool behavior although they > basically trashed the flowers! > > Marie > > > > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608 > e-mail m...@cornell.edu > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: Linda Orkin [wingmagi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:46 PM > To: Marie P. Read > Cc: Peter; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory > hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. > > https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read > <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > After they've left on migration! > Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what you > were worried about. > > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:43:40 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 7 > > Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and > orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. > > I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? > Thanks > > Pete > > >> On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: >> And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that >> migratory hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they >> travel. >> >> https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 >> >> Linda Orkin >> Ithaca, NY >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu >> <mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: >> >> After they've left on migration! >> Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's >> what you were worried about. >> >> Marie >> >> Marie Read Wildlife Photography >> 452 Ringwood Road >> Freeville NY 13068 USA >> >> Phone 607-539-6608 <tel:607-539-6608> >> e-mail m...@cornell.edu <mailto:m...@cornell.edu> >> >> Website: http://www.marieread.com >> Follow me on Facebook: >> https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/> >> ________________________________________ >> From: bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu> >> [bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu >> <mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu>] on behalf of >> Peter [psara...@rochester.rr.com <mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM >> To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles >> >> Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers >> sugar water and orioles jelly? >> Thanks >> Pete Sar >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and >> Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME>> >> Rules and >> Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES>> >> Subscribe, Configuration and >> >> Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm>> >> Archives: >> The Mail >> >> Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html>> >> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds>> >> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html>> >> Please submit your observations to >> eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>>! >> -- >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> <http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> <http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> <http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) >> http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of >> the sun and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had >> been born into the world to enjoy" Plutarch >> >> If you permit >> this evil, what is the good >> of the good of your life? >> >> -Stanley Kunitz... >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Jody Enck <jodye...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:08:27 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 8 > > Hi Pete, > > Don't worry about either the Hummingbirds or the Orioles. Food > availability is not really a driver in migration timing for any species. > That would be quite maladaptive. Other cues, including but not limited to > day length, sometimes combined with wind direction, atmospheric pressure, > tilt of the Earth (as evidenced by changing night sky), and other things. > I am simply trying to say that you should not feel guilty at all of leaving > your feeders up (or taking them down) when it suites you. It is wonderful > that you feed them when you do, and I hope you feel good about that. I > plan to leave my hummingbird and oriole feeders up until we have a chance > for a hard frost. There is plenty of food out there now for nectar and > fruit feeders, but some late migrants might really appreciate your feeders > when the nights start getting frosty! > > Take care > Jody > >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and >> orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. >> >> I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? >> Thanks >> >> Pete >> >> On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: >> >> And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory >> hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. >> >> https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 >> >> Linda Orkin >> Ithaca, NY >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu> wrote: >>> >>> After they've left on migration! >>> Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what >>> you were worried about. >>> >>> Marie >>> >>> Marie Read Wildlife Photography >>> 452 Ringwood Road >>> Freeville NY 13068 USA >>> >>> Phone 607-539-6608 >>> e-mail m...@cornell.edu >>> >>> Website: http://www.marieread.com >>> Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Marie >>> -Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu [ >>> bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Peter [ >>> psara...@rochester.rr.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM >>> To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L >>> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles >>> >>> Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar >>> water and orioles jelly? >>> Thanks >>> Pete Sar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >>> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbird >>> ing.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell. >>> edu/maillist.html> >>> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >>> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>> ! >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigur >>> ationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the >> sun and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born >> into the world to enjoy" Plutarch >> >> If you permit >> this evil, what is the good >> of the good of your life? >> >> -Stanley Kunitz... >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: other food for birds > From: Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:19:59 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 9 > > Around here I have noticed that this is a good year for fruits, nuts and > berry production. My cedar trees are totally loaded with ripening cedar > berries that are starting to turn blue. The Waxwings will love them. There > are lots of apples, pears, hickory nuts, and a couple neighbors and I let > thistles go to seed (other neighbors think we are nuts). I have not checked > out the oaks for acorns, so don’t know how they are doing, but I think > generally it is a good “food year”. > > Donna L. Scott > 535 Lansing Station Road > Lansing, NY 14882 > > From: bounce-121728891-15001...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-121728891-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jody Enck > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:08 PM > To: Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> > Cc: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com>; Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu>; > CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Hi Pete, > > Don't worry about either the Hummingbirds or the Orioles. Food availability > is not really a driver in migration timing for any species. That would be > quite maladaptive. Other cues, including but not limited to day length, > sometimes combined with wind direction, atmospheric pressure, tilt of the > Earth (as evidenced by changing night sky), and other things. I am simply > trying to say that you should not feel guilty at all of leaving your feeders > up (or taking them down) when it suites you. It is wonderful that you feed > them when you do, and I hope you feel good about that. I plan to leave my > hummingbird and oriole feeders up until we have a chance for a hard frost. > There is plenty of food out there now for nectar and fruit feeders, but some > late migrants might really appreciate your feeders when the nights start > getting frosty! > > Take care > Jody > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Peter > <psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> wrote: > > Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and > orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. > > I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? > Thanks > > Pete > > On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: > And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory > hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. > > https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read > <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > After they've left on migration! > Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what you > were worried about. > > Marie > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608<tel:607-539-6608> > e-mail m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu> > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: > bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu> > > [bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu>] > on behalf of Peter > [psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM > To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > > -- > "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun > and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into > the world to enjoy" Plutarch > > If you permit > this evil, what is the good > of the good of your life? > > -Stanley Kunitz... > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Cayugabirds-L List > Info:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Welcome and > Basics<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Rules and > Information<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Archives:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > The Mail > Archive<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Surfbirds<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Please submit your observations to > eBird!<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Cayugabirds-L List > Info:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Welcome and > Basics<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Rules and > Information<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Archives:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > The Mail > Archive<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Surfbirds<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Please submit your observations to > eBird!<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Asher Hockett <veery...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:20:05 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 10 > > There are greater forces at play in the mechanisms which trigger migration > than the availability of food at feeders. We understand to some extent > that, on a grand scale, birds which migrate long distances are driven to do > so (or evolved to do so) by the availability and huge disparity > quantity-wise of food between their summer and winter habitats, factors > like daylight period and other environmental parameters play a huge role in > stimulating the urge to migrate. > > There may be an odd bird which clings to a local food source longer than > the rest of it's species, but they are clearly in the minority and I don't > think embracing the "blame" for this is of much use. If a bird fails to > survive because it remains behind too long, this is selection at work. > > "Real" scientist ornithologists can speak to this with authority - this is > just a reader's digest version from my own meager knowledge. > >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and >> orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. >> >> I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? >> Thanks >> >> Pete >> >> On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: >> >> And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory >> hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. >> >> https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 >> >> Linda Orkin >> Ithaca, NY >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu> wrote: >>> >>> After they've left on migration! >>> Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what >>> you were worried about. >>> >>> Marie >>> >>> Marie Read Wildlife Photography >>> 452 Ringwood Road >>> Freeville NY 13068 USA >>> >>> Phone 607-539-6608 >>> e-mail m...@cornell.edu >>> >>> Website: http://www.marieread.com >>> Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Marie >>> -Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu [ >>> bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Peter [ >>> psara...@rochester.rr.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM >>> To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L >>> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles >>> >>> Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar >>> water and orioles jelly? >>> Thanks >>> Pete Sar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >>> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbird >>> ing.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.ed >>> u/maillist.html> >>> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >>> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>> ! >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigur >>> ationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the >> sun and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born >> into the world to enjoy" Plutarch >> >> If you permit >> this evil, what is the good >> of the good of your life? >> >> -Stanley Kunitz... >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> > > > > -- > asher > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: other food for birds > From: "Michael O. Engle" <m...@cornell.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:28:33 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 11 > > I let my thistles go to seed every year as well. We get lots of goldfinches > visiting our yard to feed on them. I had not thought about the neighbors > thinking I’m nuts…. Or seedy. > > Michael > +++++++++++++++++ > Michael Engle > m...@cornell.edu > Reference and Instruction Librarian > Selector, Olin/Uris Reference and Anglo-American News > 106 Olin Library, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 > > http://vivo.library.cornell.edu/display/individual22712 > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-7161-2619 > > From: bounce-121728925-3493...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-121728925-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Donna Lee > Scott > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:20 PM > To: Jody Enck <jodye...@gmail.com>; Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> > Cc: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com>; Marie P. Read <m...@cornell.edu>; > CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] other food for birds > > Around here I have noticed that this is a good year for fruits, nuts and > berry production. My cedar trees are totally loaded with ripening cedar > berries that are starting to turn blue. The Waxwings will love them. There > are lots of apples, pears, hickory nuts, and a couple neighbors and I let > thistles go to seed (other neighbors think we are nuts). I have not checked > out the oaks for acorns, so don’t know how they are doing, but I think > generally it is a good “food year”. > > Donna L. Scott > 535 Lansing Station Road > Lansing, NY 14882 > > From: > bounce-121728891-15001...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121728891-15001...@list.cornell.edu> > [mailto:bounce-121728891-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jody Enck > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:08 PM > To: Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> > Cc: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com<mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>>; Marie > P. Read <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L > <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Hi Pete, > > Don't worry about either the Hummingbirds or the Orioles. Food availability > is not really a driver in migration timing for any species. That would be > quite maladaptive. Other cues, including but not limited to day length, > sometimes combined with wind direction, atmospheric pressure, tilt of the > Earth (as evidenced by changing night sky), and other things. I am simply > trying to say that you should not feel guilty at all of leaving your feeders > up (or taking them down) when it suites you. It is wonderful that you feed > them when you do, and I hope you feel good about that. I plan to leave my > hummingbird and oriole feeders up until we have a chance for a hard frost. > There is plenty of food out there now for nectar and fruit feeders, but some > late migrants might really appreciate your feeders when the nights start > getting frosty! > > Take care > Jody > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Peter > <psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> wrote: > > Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and > orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. > > I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? > Thanks > > Pete > > On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: > And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory > hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. > > https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read > <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > After they've left on migration! > Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what you > were worried about. > > Marie > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608<tel:607-539-6608> > e-mail m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu> > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: > bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu> > > [bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu>] > on behalf of Peter > [psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM > To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > > -- > "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun > and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into > the world to enjoy" Plutarch > > If you permit > this evil, what is the good > of the good of your life? > > -Stanley Kunitz... > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Cayugabirds-L List > Info:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Welcome and > Basics<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Rules and > Information<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Archives:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > The Mail > Archive<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Surfbirds<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Please submit your observations to > eBird!<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Cayugabirds-L List > Info:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Welcome and > Basics<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Rules and > Information<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Archives:<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > The Mail > Archive<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Surfbirds<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Please submit your observations to > eBird!<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > --<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife > Management Plan > From: <k...@empacc.net> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 21:39:27 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 12 > > Strongly second John's comments for both the Connecticut Hill plan and > for the FLNF. So often a great hue and cry is raised before we > understand the process and benefits planned. > > John > > --- > John and Sue Gregoire > Field Ornithologists > Kestrel Haven Migration Observatory > 5373 Fitzgerald Rd > Burdett, NY 14818 > 42.443508000, -76.758202000 > >> On 2017-08-16 17:25, John Confer wrote: >> >> The DEC periodically updates management plans for each forest unit. I don't >> know the details of Connecticut Hill, but I did become involved with the >> Hammond Hill plans. I met with DEC personnel to suggest some alterations in >> their plans for successional habitat. On balance I strongly support them. >> The intention is to create habitat that supports a greater diversity of >> wildlife. In particular, for Hammond Hill State Forest there is a conscious >> attempt to create more early succession habitat by forest cutting. The >> background is that in New York most forest species are increasing while most >> successional species are declining. Even so called forest species frequently >> use or even require successional habitat for part of the annual diet. Bear >> fatten on berries, turkey feed their poults on seeds of successional plants, >> tanagers feed on berries, and deer browse on small woody stems as an >> important and perhaps critical winter food. etc. Of course, early >> successional habitat support! > s a > variety of early successional species, but it also provides forage for deer > and many other forest species for parts of their annual life. I offer these > thoughts after 35 years of research on successional species. I wouldn't throw > out the baby with the bath water on this effort. >> >> John Confer >> >> FROM: bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu >> [mailto:bounce-121728155-25065...@list.cornell.edu] ON BEHALF OF Dave >> Gislason >> SENT: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:11 PM >> TO: Martha Fischer <m...@cornell.edu>; CAYUGABIRDS-L >> <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> >> SUBJECT: Re: [cayugabirds-l] FW: New post published Meeting on Connecticut >> Hill Wildlife Management Plan >> >> They're just telling us about this now, but they've been working at it for a >> couple of years at least. Living close by, I've seen 3 areas turned into >> YFIs (one a camping area), and 3 areas of clear-cutting. There other areas >> with the telltale Blue paint marks indicating "treatments" to come. I would >> say that communication with the public has been quite poor so far. Only >> recently did they construct a couple of message boards with a flyer on the >> Young forest Initiatives -after they had cut down many trees. Maybe they've >> been barraged with questions and/or complaints. >> >> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017, 9:03:46 AM EDT, Martha Fischer >> <m...@cornell.edu> wrote: >> >> Here's an FYI... >> >> There's a new post at TownOfEnfield.org. Meeting on Connecticut Hill >> Wildlife Management Plan >> Meeting on Connecticut Hill Wildlife Management Plan >> Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:00 p.m. >> Newfield Fire Dept., 77 Main St. Newfield, NY >> NYSDEC will host an open house to provide information on a recently >> finalized habitat management plan for Connecticut hill Wildlife Management >> Area located in the Towns of Catherine, Cayuta and Hector, ... >> You may view the latest post at >> http://townofenfield.org/meeting-on-connecticut-hill-wildlife-management-plan/ >> [1] >> You received this e-mail because you asked to be notified when new updates >> are posted. >> >> Thank you. >> Town of Enfield >> >> -- >> >> CAYUGABIRDS-L LIST INFO: >> >> Welcome and Basics [2] >> >> Rules and Information [3] >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave [4] >> >> ARCHIVES: >> >> The Mail Archive [5] >> >> Surfbirds [6] >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net [7] >> >> PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR OBSERVATIONS TO EBIRD [8]! >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> CAYUGABIRDS-L LIST INFO: >> >> Welcome and Basics [2] >> >> Rules and Information [3] >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave [4] >> >> ARCHIVES: >> >> The Mail Archive [5] >> >> Surfbirds [6] >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net [7] >> >> PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR OBSERVATIONS TO EBIRD [8]! >> >> -- >> -- >> CAYUGABIRDS-L LIST INFO: >> Welcome and Basics [2] >> Rules and Information [3] >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave [4] >> ARCHIVES: >> The Mail Archive [5] >> Surfbirds [6] >> BirdingOnThe.Net [7] >> PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR OBSERVATIONS TO EBIRD [8]! >> -- > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://townofenfield.org/meeting-on-connecticut-hill-wildlife-management-plan/ > [2] http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > [3] http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > [4] > http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > [5] http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > [6] http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > [7] http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > [8] http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: "Marie P. Read" <m...@cornell.edu> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:02:21 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 13 > > It shouldn't be a concern for any migratory birds. At least that's true for > the so-called "obligatory migrants". They are responding to changing light > levels...that's what gives them the drive to migrate. A cold front followed > by a good tail wind may be an impetus too. Feeding them won't trick them into > staying... > > Marie > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608 > e-mail m...@cornell.edu > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: Peter [psara...@rochester.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:43 PM > To: Linda Orkin; Marie P. Read > Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Yes. My concern is that I hear tell keep feeders up for both hummers and > orioles will "trick" them into staying longer than they should. > > I've been told this is not a concern for hummers. How about Orioles? > Thanks > > Pete > > On 8/16/2017 1:46 PM, Linda Orkin wrote: > And when all have migrated through. It is my understanding that migratory > hummingbirds are able to find and utilize feeders as they travel. > > https://www.thespruce.com/when-to-take-down-hummingbird-feeders-385959 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Marie P. Read > <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: > After they've left on migration! > Feeding them isn't going to prevent them from migrating, if that's what you > were worried about. > > Marie > > Marie Read Wildlife Photography > 452 Ringwood Road > Freeville NY 13068 USA > > Phone 607-539-6608<tel:607-539-6608> > e-mail m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu> > > Website: http://www.marieread.com > Follow me on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ > ________________________________________ > From: > bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu> > > [bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121727479-5851...@list.cornell.edu>] > on behalf of Peter > [psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:02 AM > To: Jay McGowan; CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > > > -- > "For the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun > and the light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into > the world to enjoy" Plutarch > > If you permit > this evil, what is the good > of the good of your life? > > -Stanley Kunitz... > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > [X]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Nicholas Kachala <nicholask...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:11:32 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 14 > > There have been people over the years that have left their hummingbird > feeders up well into the Fall and have helped straggler Ruby-throated and > even other rarity hummingbirds. Into November, it is occasional for extreme > wandering of species, and hummingbird feeders left up can provide crucial > aid for these off-course, usually nutrient deprived, birds. > > Nick Kachala > nicholaskach@gmail > > On Aug 16, 2017 9:07 AM, "Peter" <psara...@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > <#m_7923523267729947893_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > -- > *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > *Please submit your observations to eBird > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > From: Marty Schlabach <m...@cornell.edu> > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 01:21:16 +0000 > X-Message-Number: 15 > > We keep our hummingbird feeder up quite late, ever since 2012 when we had a > Rufus Hummer coming to our feeder into November. Now hoping that lightning > will strike twice in the same spot and we get another one. > --Marty > Interlaken > > From: bounce-121729229-3494...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-121729229-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nicholas > Kachala > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:12 PM > To: Peter <psara...@rochester.rr.com> > Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] When to stop feeding hummers AND Orioles > > There have been people over the years that have left their hummingbird > feeders up well into the Fall and have helped straggler Ruby-throated and > even other rarity hummingbirds. Into November, it is occasional for extreme > wandering of species, and hummingbird feeders left up can provide crucial aid > for these off-course, usually nutrient deprived, birds. > > Nick Kachala > nicholaskach@gmail > > On Aug 16, 2017 9:07 AM, "Peter" > <psara...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:psara...@rochester.rr.com>> wrote: > > > Can someone suggest an appropriate time to stop feeding hummers sugar water > and orioles jelly? > Thanks > Pete Sar > > > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > Archives: > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! > -- > > > > --- > > END OF DIGEST > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
