Thanks for all of your help...

When you guys do it, do you start by writing it all out in binary, or make an educated guess on what groups together? and it is best to start with the first octet and going forward, or the last going backwards?

Again, Thanks!

Sincerely,
Kim Pedersen

Tyson Scott wrote:
Yes Correct Kim,

194 and 193 can defiantly be matched in one line if all the rest were the
same.  In your example none of those could be combined into one line without
matching additional networks.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Pedersen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:02 PM
To: Tyson Scott
Cc: 'Bryan Bartik'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ACL Wildcards

Hi Tyson,

In my example, those 4 bits are just in the first octet alone. So im assuming we really need to treat the entire address, and not just by octet?

So there's no "set-in-stone" rules to go by, you just sort of have to group them, see if that matches and go from there?

Finally, in my example, if i add the 193 prefix, I would have 6 bits of difference, so the closest i could do in one line is by matching 64 nets, and this would give an indication on whether i need to narrow it down?

Sincerely,
Kim

Tyson Scott wrote:
Kim

When it has a large amount of differences you need to find similarities
between them to put them together

194 is 11000010
174 is 10101110

This is 4 bit differences so you would have to have 16 entries to match
them
as one line without matching additional subnets

It is important to also note if they say to not match any additional
networks or if they just say to combine them to as few lines without
specifying that you can't match additional networks as well.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Pedersen
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:28 AM
To: Bryan Bartik
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] ACL Wildcards

Hi Bryan,

I guess I didnt point out the problem (sounds soo serious :) ), but what if the question states: "make these into as few entries as possible", and they are soo different that it might not end up in one entry (again, with difference in multiple octets).

For example (no logic behind choosing these):
194.64.0.96/27
174.34.87.64/26
193.23.10.8/30
...
Next, imagine 32 addresses just like this :)

How do you go about breaking all of this down?

Sincerely,
Kim Pedersen

Bryan Bartik wrote:
Kim, even if there is more than one octet you still can look at the number of bits that are different. Example:

192.168.0.0
192.168.0.1
192.168.1.0
192.168.1.1

The above addresses have 2 bits (bit 0 in the 3rd and 4th octets) that differ and we can combine them in one ACL.

3rd and 4th octets:
0000 0000 | 0000 0000
0000 0000 | 0000 0001
0000 0001 | 0000 0000
0000 0001 | 0000 0001

0000 0000 | 0000 0000 AND
0000 0001 | 0000 0001 XOR

192.168.0.0 0.0.1.1 would be the ACL entry.

-hth

Bryan Bartik
CCIE #23707 (R&S), CCNP
Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Rodriguez, Jorge <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Jeremy this should help you in doing the calculating  wildcard  mask

    http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/01700370.htm


http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2007/12/26/q-how-do-i-compute-complex-wil
dcard-masks-for-access-lists/
    Rgds

    Jorge

    *From:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
    *JEREMY FURR (RIT Student)
    *Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2009 10:12 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_RS] ACL Wildcards

    Does anyone know of a website or book that explains well how ACL
    wildcards work? I have been trying to filter out four blocks from
    a bunch of route advertisments but just can't get the three I want
    through, this is what I have R2 is originating 192.168.2.0/24
    <http://192.168.2.0/24> through 192.168.15.0/24
    <http://192.168.15.0/24> in RIP to R1. I want to only accept
    blocks 192.168.5.0, 192.168.10.0, 192.168.13.0 and 192.168.14.0

    If I use acl with 192.168.10.0 0.0.4.0, I will get 10 and 14 but
    not thirteen. For the 5 network I just use the 192.168.5.0
0.0.0.255.
    Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.

    Jeremy Furr

    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




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