After all that I did reload the routers to verify.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:19 PM
To: Michael Lipsey
Cc: Bryan Bartik; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Simple Frame-Relay Question

Gday Mike,

Hmmm...

Shutting and no shutting the interface does not delete all the dynamic
maps.  Numerous sources say to reload the router but I find that:

shut,
encapsulation hdlc,
no shut,
shut,
encaps frame,
no frame inverse-arp,
no shut

will also do the trick.

I find it strange that clock rate comes up as default.  It really
shouldn't.  A few questions...

What WIC is is?  Just a normal WIC-1T?
What cable is it?  Which end is plugged into the DTE router?
What does show controllers on both ends say?

Also you dont need the "broadcast" keyword on the "ping yourself"
mappings.  This only allows the maps to forward multicasts and
broadcasts.  You wont be doing this on the interface you are on, as
you never need to see your own ospf hellos etc.

Cheers,
Matt

CCIE #22386
CCSI #31207

2009/8/16 Michael Lipsey <[email protected]>:
> Perceptive - I did have some mistakes in what I pasted. I had it
completely
> wrong, inverse-arp was disabled AFTER it had already done its job.
>
> I reconfigured to what I think is correct now on R6 (R4 mirrors this):
>
> interface Serial0/1/0
>  ip address 142.42.64.6 255.255.224.0
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  clock rate 2000000
>  frame-relay map ip 142.42.64.4 604 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 142.42.64.6 604 broadcast
>  no frame-relay inverse-arp
> end
>
>
> R6(config-if)#do ping 142.42.64.4
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 142.42.64.4, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !!!!!
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms
> R6(config-if)#do ping 142.42.64.6
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 142.42.64.6, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !!!!!
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/8 ms
>
> Now I can ping myself though - so...yeah. I think the fact that I had it
> wrong (and thought it was wrong) but that inverse-arp had already done
it's
> thing and got things working for me was throwing me off (easy to do with
> frame).
>
> My configuration uses a 2821 as a frame switch. The clock rate command
just
> shows up in the default interface configuration for some reason.
>
> My frame switch has the following configuration:
>
> frame-relay switching
>
> interface Serial0/0/0
>  description Int to R2
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  cdp enable
>  frame-relay intf-type dce
>  frame-relay route 204 interface Serial0/1/0 402
>  frame-relay route 205 interface Serial0/2/0 502
>  frame-relay route 206 interface Serial0/3/0 602
>  frame-relay route 214 interface Serial0/1/0 412
>  frame-relay route 215 interface Serial0/2/0 512
>  frame-relay route 216 interface Serial0/3/0 612
>  frame-relay route 224 interface Serial0/1/0 422
>  frame-relay route 225 interface Serial0/2/0 522
>  frame-relay route 226 interface Serial0/3/0 622
> !
> interface Serial0/1/0
>  description int to R4
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  clock rate 2000000
>  cdp enable
>  frame-relay intf-type dce
>  frame-relay route 402 interface Serial0/0/0 204
>  frame-relay route 405 interface Serial0/2/0 504
>  frame-relay route 406 interface Serial0/3/0 604
>  frame-relay route 412 interface Serial0/0/0 214
>  frame-relay route 415 interface Serial0/2/0 514
>  frame-relay route 416 interface Serial0/3/0 614
>  frame-relay route 422 interface Serial0/0/0 224
>  frame-relay route 425 interface Serial0/2/0 524
>  frame-relay route 426 interface Serial0/3/0 624
> !
> interface Serial0/2/0
>  description int to R5
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  cdp enable
>  frame-relay intf-type dce
>  frame-relay route 502 interface Serial0/0/0 205
>  frame-relay route 504 interface Serial0/1/0 405
>  frame-relay route 506 interface Serial0/3/0 605
>  frame-relay route 512 interface Serial0/0/0 215
>  frame-relay route 514 interface Serial0/1/0 415
>  frame-relay route 516 interface Serial0/3/0 615
>  frame-relay route 522 interface Serial0/0/0 225
>  frame-relay route 524 interface Serial0/1/0 425
>  frame-relay route 526 interface Serial0/3/0 625
> !
> interface Serial0/3/0
>  description int to R6
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  cdp enable
>  frame-relay intf-type dce
>  frame-relay route 602 interface Serial0/0/0 206
>  frame-relay route 604 interface Serial0/1/0 406
>  frame-relay route 605 interface Serial0/2/0 506
>  frame-relay route 612 interface Serial0/0/0 216
>  frame-relay route 614 interface Serial0/1/0 416
>  frame-relay route 615 interface Serial0/2/0 516
>  frame-relay route 622 interface Serial0/0/0 226
>  frame-relay route 624 interface Serial0/1/0 426
>  frame-relay route 625 interface Serial0/2/0 526
>
> Magical connectivity is bad.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:35 PM
> To: Bryan Bartik
> Cc: Michael Lipsey; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Simple Frame-Relay Question
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I'm curious as to how that is working....
>
> Did you no shut the interface prior to entering "encapsulation
> frame-relay" or after?  Do you have dynamic frame-relay maps? (show
> frame-relay map).  Otherwise you don't have an l2-l3 mapping.
>
> Also, you have clock rate xxxx  is this back to back or going via a
> frame switch?  Clock rate sets the interface type to dce and is
> superfluous if you are going via a switch.  If its back to back you
> should also use frame-relay intf-type dce at one end (not necessarily
> the serial dce end, but its a good idea to keep it consistent)
>
> To summarise:
> I think you did "no shut" then did "encapsulation frame-relay" and
> then inverse-arp kicked in and learned all the dynamic l2-l3 mappings.
>  After that you put in "no frame-relay inverse-arp" but by that stage
> it had already done its trick.
>
>
> Afterthought:  I also see your "do ping" is from dlci config mode.
> Did you enter dlci information?  There isnt any shown in the config.
> If you did then inverse-arp doent happen, but also other things will
> go wrong with the ip address on the physical interface rather than on
> the dlci.
>
> I'm not trying to be a pain but if your frame-relay is cactus then so
> is your ospf and you will see ridiculous neighbours pop up on dlcis
> that they shouldnt be and there begins the world of hurt...
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> 2009/8/16 Bryan Bartik <[email protected]>:
>> Michael,
>>
>> That's correct. If you want to ping yourself then create a static map for
>> your address. Be careful as this is not always allowed.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Michael Lipsey <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So…yeah – I am not the brightest frame-relay star.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that in some configurations you just can’t ping
yourself
>>> – my topology works just fine but I wanted to make myself feel better so
>>> here’s  my basic Frame config (nothing special) I don’t expect I can
ping
>>> myself here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> interface Serial0/1/0
>>>
>>>  ip address 142.42.64.6 255.255.224.0
>>>
>>>  encapsulation frame-relay
>>>
>>>  clock rate 2000000
>>>
>>>  no frame-relay inverse-arp
>>>
>>>  frame-relay lmi-type cisco
>>>
>>> end
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R6(config-fr-dlci)#do ping 142.42.64.4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Type escape sequence to abort.
>>>
>>> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 142.42.64.4, timeout is 2 seconds:
>>>
>>> !!!!!
>>>
>>> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/3/4 ms
>>>
>>> R6(config-fr-dlci)#do ping 142.42.64.6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Type escape sequence to abort.
>>>
>>> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 142.42.64.6, timeout is 2 seconds:
>>>
>>> .....
>>>
>>> Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And I can’t (and I get the same results on the other side of the
> interface
>>> – R4).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Bartik
>> CCIE #23707 (R&S), CCNP
>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>
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>>
>
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