Let me break down my CCIECONOMICS.
 
Yea, that's right I made that up just now don't get any ideas :) 
 
Seriously though let's break this down:
 
I'm only going to use the 4x 3560's as an example.
 
3560's for 24 ports is around 900+ us dollars. More like 1100 from what I have 
looked at on ebay.
 
So that's 2000 bucks and meet down the midd..... Let's see - 2000 bucks divided 
by the price of 10 sessions is $225/10 = 22.50 per session (assuming you buy a 
10 pack)
 
2000/22.50 = 88.88 sessions. nearly 89 SESSIONS! That is 688 HOURS of rack 
time!!!!!!!!
 
Sure you can sell off the equipment afterwords and have access to it but I get 
TIRED of messing around with what IOS can run what and trying to do a lab - 
just to find out oh damn my platform doesn't support that. Like private vlans 
on a 3550 = no go, among MANY other things.
 
I'm just talking about the 3560's here. If you want to throw in something 
"current" even if you went for 1841s at 500 a piece, that's another 1000+ bucks
 
 
3000/22.50 = 133.33 sessions x 7.75 hours = 1036 hours of rack time.
 
1000+ hours of rack time. 
 
For the routers, I use dynamips. For all the switching technologies I do lab 
sessions specifically for the technologies that relate to the switching.
 
I realize the time available to sit through the 7+ hours is hard. I agree, but 
what I did is I hit up the IPX team and asked for a deal. So I got a REALLY 
good deal on my rack rentals (MUCH better than 22.50 per session) so if I only 
use 4 hours of it, no problem. I finish a lab and then start running through 
other stuff that's not really lab related but stuff I want to try.
 
I don't get to sell it at the end, but I get my rack time and I don't waste 
time copy pasting configs in, seeing if it's my rack's fault or my fault. 
 
With proctor labs - I know that 99% of the time if something doesn't work It's 
not me being crazy it's probably some weird hidden lab task coming to get me.
 
I've preached this before, so some have seen this before some may not have. 
There it is for ya :)
 
BTW Joe, im enjoying the VOD. Almost done with my first pass through (damn 
there is alot !)...
 
-Nick

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, L. Jankok <[email protected]> wrote:


From: L. Jankok <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Fwd: Lab equipment
To: "ERNEST CONCEPCION" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 2:49 PM


The recommended pod doesn't support ipexpert workbooks... you will need at least
two more routers and also gigabit interfaces.

2010/2/9 ERNEST CONCEPCION <[email protected]>:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: ERNEST CONCEPCION <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab equipment
> To: Michael Peck <[email protected]>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> My suggestion would be to use the following suggestion from:
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/topology.htm (No offense to IPE fans and
> staff; perhaps it is time that IPE put their two cents in the matter and
> create one so I won't have to recommend another, :-))
>
> However, as the 3560s were way out of my budget range, I settled for 3550s.
> Everything can be purchased off eBay for really good prices, including
> the serial and octal cables, mount kits, flash/memory upgrade kits, screws,
> rack, you name it.  For me it was a great experience, it taught me a lot and
> boosted my confidence and love for Cisco products--nothing like touching the
> stuff, opening it up and playing around with it.  I can tell you right now
> that the most expensive stuff you'll buy are the 1841s (roughly $500+) and
> 3550s (roughly $800+), the rest are dirt cheap (from $75-$150).  And if you
> couple this lab with a Dynamips setup on a laptop (if you can afford it) for
> traveling purposes, you will be well on your way, or you can setup your lab
> up for remote access when away from your lab.
>
> If you decide to do it, i wish you well and have lots of fun.
>
> Ernest
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Michael Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I am building a home lab for my studies and trying to figure out what
>> would be a buget oriented but 100% functional setup that would meet all the
>> latest R&S requirements.
>>
>> If someone who has already done this before could share his knowlegde, I
>> would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Michael
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