Yes, that was my original concern. I was able to get the scenario  
working and when I went back and looked at the DSG, I saw it  
referenced the "distance" command, which I didn't use and I was trying  
to understand why.

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On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> Based on our findings today I would agree with you.  Did you try it?
> I would, but my rack is unavailable for that at the moment.  I would
> also like to get Marko's input on this since he is the author of that
> particular question.  Typically, things like that (changing the AD)
> get introduced into the lab because we found while writing it  that it
> would not work otherwise, but I could be wrong.  Marko is teaching a
> class this week, but I'll forward this to him and see if he has any
> memory of this specific issue.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14,  2010 at 12:10 PM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So, back to my original question. It looks like you would not need  
>> to add
>> the "distance bgp 20 20 20" command for this particular scenario  
>> since, you
>> only have the one Pim enabled path?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Joe Astorino <[email protected] 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is pretty much the conclusion I came up with in testing --  
>>> since
>>> the RPF mechanism was never even considering the IGP learned route,
>>> there was never a decision to be made between anything.  There was
>>> only 1 valid choice so that is what was used.  Once there was more
>>> than one valid choice (upon enabling PIM) for RPF information, the  
>>> AD
>>> was used as the first tie-breaker.  If the AD is the same (like say
>>> you are JUST running BGP and have unicast BGP routes and multicast  
>>> BGP
>>> routes) then it seems multicast BGP table is preferred (according to
>>> the rules I posted earlier)
>>>
>>> I hope that helps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> I really hate to keep beating this to the ground but....
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that the RPF multicast rules that you forwarded to  
>>>> me
>>>> only
>>>> apply to "Pim Enabled" interfaces. Meaning since the fastethernet  
>>>> link
>>>> is
>>>> not enabled, routes (unicast) sourcing from it are not evaluated?
>>>>
>>>> When I look at the show ip rpf command, one of the fields I  
>>>> notice is
>>>> the
>>>> RPF neighbor, which leads me to believe that you would need to  
>>>> have a
>>>> neighbor relationship (meaning you would need to have Pim enabled  
>>>> on
>>>> both
>>>> ends).
>>>>
>>>> Let me know, if I'm looking at this the wrong way
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected] 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For sure Rob! One of the biggest parts of becoming a CCIE is  
>>>>> this --
>>>>> questioning everything, and being unwilling to accept an answer  
>>>>> until
>>>>> you
>>>>> understand it. That is the right attitude and one we appreciate  
>>>>> from
>>>>> students who are hungry : )
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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>>>>> From: Rob <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:51:35 -0400
>>>>> To: Joe Astorino<[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>; CCIE
>>>>> OSL<[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab 5 Volume 3
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for labbing this up and clarifying the RPF process. It is  
>>>>> an odd
>>>>> case, I think I'll lab up a couple different scenarios (using  
>>>>> different
>>>>> IGPs, peering with physical links instead of loopbacks, etc.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I definantly understand there is a method to you guys  
>>>>> madness,
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> just trying to understand the technologies best I can and  
>>>>> identify gaps
>>>>> (and
>>>>> you pointed one out regarding my understanding of RPF checks).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the help!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected] 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I labbed up your scenario and I think I have an idea of what is  
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> on here.  Here are my results:  When I removed BGP completely  
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> picture (no router bgp 78) and did a "show ip rpf" for 8.8.8.8  
>>>>>> from R7
>>>>>> I received an error that no route existed! This was pretty  
>>>>>> funny since
>>>>>> I could like you run "sho ip route" and see it in the unicast  
>>>>>> routing
>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFTER REMOVING BGP
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip route ospf
>>>>>>     8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>> O       8.8.8.8 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:00:04,  
>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8) failed, no route exists
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like the reason MBGP was being preferred in your case is
>>>>>> because the router simply didn't even CONSIDER the route in the
>>>>>> unicast routing table.  After a reload I received the RPF  
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> very briefly...right up until OSPF on Fa0/0 came up and then  
>>>>>> back to
>>>>>> the same RPF failure.  If I shut down Fa0/0 the RPF information  
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> back up just fine.  Very strange. It is almost as if the RPF  
>>>>>> check
>>>>>> will not consider anything that PIM is not enabled on.  To test  
>>>>>> this,
>>>>>> I enabled PIM on Fa0/0 of JUST R7 and ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>  RPF interface: FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.78.8)
>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>  RPF type: unicast (ospf 1)
>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now of course there is still no PIM neighbor, but the interface  
>>>>>> itself
>>>>>> is participating in multicast. NOW that we know that path is  
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> considered we will bring BGP back up...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R7#sh ip bgp ipv4 multicast
>>>>>> BGP table version is 3, local router ID is 7.7.7.7
>>>>>> Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, >  
>>>>>> best, i -
>>>>>> internal,
>>>>>>              r RIB-failure, S Stale
>>>>>> Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
>>>>>> *> 7.7.7.7/32       0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
>>>>>> *>i8.8.8.8/32       150.100.87.8             0    100      0 i
>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>> R7#sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>  RPF interface: FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.78.8)
>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>  RPF type: unicast (ospf 1)
>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And there we have it...OSPF still preferred.  Of course this  
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> that on the other end where we still don't have PIM enabled on  
>>>>>> Fa0/0
>>>>>> we will face the original problem of the OSPF path not being
>>>>>> considered.  The best I can tell you here Robert is that it is  
>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>> strange behavior...obviously if we could enable PIM on the
>>>>>> FastEthernet interfaces we wouldn't have to worry about the RPF  
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> begin with.  I did want to show you though that there IS a  
>>>>>> method to
>>>>>> our madness and those things get put into the books for a reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anybody else has some light to shed on this little mystery I  
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> love to hear it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected] 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> That is correct -- But that is talking about BGP only.  If you  
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> had unicast routes in BGP and you had multicast routes in BGP  
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> seems like the multicast is preferred. At that point the AD is  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same because they are both coming in via BGP.  That fits in with
>>>>>>> rule
>>>>>>> #3 that I posted previously when the AD is the same.  If you  
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> unicast routes in some other IGP like OSPF in your case, and you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> multicast information coming in from MP-BGP it seems that the  
>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>> AD
>>>>>>> is preferred first by the RPF process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, that is not what you are seeing but as you can see  
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> what the documentation says.  That is also what I have  
>>>>>>> observed in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> past.  It may have to do with how your iBGP is setup there.   
>>>>>>> Could
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> try peering on the s0/0 interface instead of the loopback and  
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> happens?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Robert Simmons <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey Joe, Thanks for the quick response. Am I mis- 
>>>>>>>> understanding this
>>>>>>>> link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/ip_route/configuration/guide/tbrbover.html
>>>>>>>> Under the "Multiprotocol BGP Extensions for IP Multicast"  
>>>>>>>> paragraph
>>>>>>>> A multicast routing protocol, such as PIM, uses both the  
>>>>>>>> multicast
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> unicast BGP database to source the route, perform Reverse Path
>>>>>>>> Forwarding
>>>>>>>> (RPF) lookups for multicast-capable sources, and build a  
>>>>>>>> multicast
>>>>>>>> distribution tree (MDT). The multicast table is the primary  
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> router, but if the route is not found in the multicast table  
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> unicast table is searched. Although multicast can be  
>>>>>>>> performed with
>>>>>>>> unicast
>>>>>>>> BGP, multicast BGP routes allow an alternative topology to be  
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> RPF.
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Joe Astorino wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, notice how "sh ip rpf" talks about distance-preferred
>>>>>>>> lookups.
>>>>>>>> Check out the following from this Cisco doc:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk828/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094b55.shtml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cisco IOSĀ® calculates the RPF interface in this way. Possible
>>>>>>>> sources
>>>>>>>> of RPF information are Unicast Routing Table, MBGP routing  
>>>>>>>> table,
>>>>>>>> DVMRP routing table and Static Mroute table. When you  
>>>>>>>> calculate the
>>>>>>>> RPF interface, primarily administrative distance is used to
>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>> exactly which source of information the RPF calculation is  
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>> The specific rules are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      All preceding sources of RPF data are searched for a  
>>>>>>>> match on
>>>>>>>> the source IP address. When using Shared Trees, the RP  
>>>>>>>> address is
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> instead of the source address.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      If more than one matching route is found, the route with  
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> lowest administrative distance is used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      If the admin distances are equal, then this order of
>>>>>>>> preference
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> used:
>>>>>>>>         1. Static mroutes
>>>>>>>>         2. DVMRP routes
>>>>>>>>         3. MBGP routes
>>>>>>>>         4. Unicast routes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      If multiple entries for a route occur within the same  
>>>>>>>> route
>>>>>>>> table, the longest match route is used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Joe Astorino
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice job on the testing.  I think it may have to do with the  
>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you changed the next-hop manually there with your route-map.   
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interested to see what things look like without that change. In
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> testing I have done in the past to get the results I  
>>>>>>>> explained I
>>>>>>>> had a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> slightly different setup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) My iBGP peers were not between loopback addresses but on the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> physical addresses of the PIM enabled link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) I was not changing the next-hop of the multicast networks  
>>>>>>>> in BGP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Robert Simmons <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mocked up the following quick scenario:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      <-------------Non Pim Enabled FastE Link------------->
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R7
>>>>>>>>                    R8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <-----------------Pim Enabled Serial Link------------->
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - OSPF enabled on both links and loopback 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - FastE link is preferred
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - R8 is RP/BSR router
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - R7/R8 has igmp join on both loopback0 interfaces
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this configuration the routers are unable to ping each  
>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>> mcast
>>>>>>>> IP
>>>>>>>> addresses, which is correct behavior due to RPF issue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Added the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -MBGP (I) configuration between R7 & R8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Set next-hop IP address for loopback to the Serial Link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this configuration the RPF has been corrected. I'm able to  
>>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>>> mcast
>>>>>>>> interfaces from both routers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since this BGP configuration is iBGP and not eBGP this again  
>>>>>>>> leads
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> believe that the multicast BGP table is looked at first and  
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> unicast
>>>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Configs are below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ***********R7**************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hostname R7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ip multicast-routing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 7.7.7.7 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip igmp join-group 225.0.0.7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.87.7 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  encapsulation ppp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  clock rate 2000000
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.78.7 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  speed 100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  full-duplex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> router ospf 1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  log-adjacency-changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 7.7.7.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 150.100.78.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 150.100.87.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> router bgp 78
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 remote-as 78
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 update-source Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  address-family ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 activate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 route-map MCAST in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no auto-summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no synchronization
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 7.7.7.7 mask 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  exit-address-family
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> route-map MCAST permit 10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  set ip next-hop 150.100.87.8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R7#show ip route
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     7.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       7.7.7.7 is directly connected, Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O       8.8.8.8 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:46:22,  
>>>>>>>> FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 7 subnets, 2 masks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O       150.100.108.0/24 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:46:22,
>>>>>>>> FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.8/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.78.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R7#show ip bgp ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BGP table version is 3, local router ID is 7.7.7.7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, >  
>>>>>>>> best, i
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> internal,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>              r RIB-failure, S Stale
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight  
>>>>>>>> Path
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *> 7.7.7.7/32       0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *>i8.8.8.8/32       150.100.87.8             0    100      0 i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R7#show ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF interface: Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.87.8)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF type: mbgp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ***********R8**************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hostname R8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ip multicast-routing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 8.8.8.8 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.78.8 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  speed 100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  full-duplex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interface Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.87.8 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  encapsulation ppp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  ip igmp join-group 225.0.0.8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  clock rate 2000000
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> router ospf 1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  log-adjacency-changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 area 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> router bgp 78
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 remote-as 78
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 update-source Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  address-family ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 activate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 route-map MCAST in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no auto-summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  no synchronization
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  network 8.8.8.8 mask 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  exit-address-family
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ip pim bsr-candidate Loopback0 10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ip pim rp-candidate Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> route-map MCAST permit 10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  set ip next-hop 150.100.87.7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R8#show ip route
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     7.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O       7.7.7.7 [110/2] via 150.100.78.7, 00:53:22,  
>>>>>>>> FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       8.8.8.8 is directly connected, Loopback0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 4 subnets, 2 masks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.7/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C       150.100.78.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R8#show ip rpf 7.7.7.7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (7.7.7.7)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF interface: Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.87.7)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 7.7.7.7/32
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF type: mbgp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Joe Astorino wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it is eBGP you are fine. If it is iBGP the rpf will still  
>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> unicast routing table. My suggestion is that you play with both
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> running "sh ip rpf"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Robert Simmons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: CCIE OSL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab 5 Volume 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Apr 13, 2010 3:56 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IPExperts,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was working on Troubleshooting Ticket No. 4 (Multicast in  
>>>>>>>> AS25)
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>> able to make it work but, when I looked at the DSG I noticed  
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>> added the "distance bgp 20 20 20" command to the multicast  
>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>> family.
>>>>>>>> The solution guide says this was done because RPF lookup is  
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> dependent
>>>>>>>> on AD but, I thought the way RPF worked was that it looked at  
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> multicast
>>>>>>>> BGP database first and then the unicast table. Since you are
>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> route's next-hop via MBGP route-map (pointing it to the sparse
>>>>>>>> enabled
>>>>>>>> interface) my thoughts are you wouldn't need to lower the  
>>>>>>>> MBGP AD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> training,
>>>>>>>> please
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> South Asia
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at
>>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at
>>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video  
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom  
>>>>>>>> Training
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United
>>>>>>>> States,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public  
>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>>>>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video  
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom  
>>>>>>>> Training
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>>>>>>>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United
>>>>>>>> States,
>>>>>>>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>>>>>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public  
>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>>>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on
>>>>>>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom  
>>>>>>> Training
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>>>>>>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United
>>>>>>> States,
>>>>>>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>>>>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public  
>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on
>>>>>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom  
>>>>>> Training for
>>>>>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>>>>>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United  
>>>>>> States,
>>>>>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>>>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public  
>>>>>> website at
>>>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>
>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on
>>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training  
>>> for
>>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United  
>>> States,
>>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website  
>>> at
>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> Mailto: [email protected]
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>
> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on
> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for
> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United States,
> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at
> www.ipexpert.com
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