Cool, then looks like we have learned something new today : )

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Rob Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, that was my original concern. I was able to get the scenario working
> and when I went back and looked at the DSG, I saw it referenced the
> "distance" command, which I didn't use and I was trying to understand why.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Based on our findings today I would agree with you.  Did you try it?
>> I would, but my rack is unavailable for that at the moment.  I would
>> also like to get Marko's input on this since he is the author of that
>> particular question.  Typically, things like that (changing the AD)
>> get introduced into the lab because we found while writing it  that it
>> would not work otherwise, but I could be wrong.  Marko is teaching a
>> class this week, but I'll forward this to him and see if he has any
>> memory of this specific issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14,  2010 at 12:10 PM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, back to my original question. It looks like you would not need to add
>>> the "distance bgp 20 20 20" command for this particular scenario since,
>>> you
>>> only have the one Pim enabled path?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is pretty much the conclusion I came up with in testing -- since
>>>> the RPF mechanism was never even considering the IGP learned route,
>>>> there was never a decision to be made between anything.  There was
>>>> only 1 valid choice so that is what was used.  Once there was more
>>>> than one valid choice (upon enabling PIM) for RPF information, the AD
>>>> was used as the first tie-breaker.  If the AD is the same (like say
>>>> you are JUST running BGP and have unicast BGP routes and multicast BGP
>>>> routes) then it seems multicast BGP table is preferred (according to
>>>> the rules I posted earlier)
>>>>
>>>> I hope that helps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really hate to keep beating this to the ground but....
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that the RPF multicast rules that you forwarded to me
>>>>> only
>>>>> apply to "Pim Enabled" interfaces. Meaning since the fastethernet link
>>>>> is
>>>>> not enabled, routes (unicast) sourcing from it are not evaluated?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I look at the show ip rpf command, one of the fields I notice is
>>>>> the
>>>>> RPF neighbor, which leads me to believe that you would need to have a
>>>>> neighbor relationship (meaning you would need to have Pim enabled on
>>>>> both
>>>>> ends).
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know, if I'm looking at this the wrong way
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For sure Rob! One of the biggest parts of becoming a CCIE is this --
>>>>>> questioning everything, and being unwilling to accept an answer until
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> understand it. That is the right attitude and one we appreciate from
>>>>>> students who are hungry : )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Rob <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:51:35 -0400
>>>>>> To: Joe Astorino<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: <[email protected]>; CCIE
>>>>>> OSL<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab 5 Volume 3
>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for labbing this up and clarifying the RPF process. It is an
>>>>>> odd
>>>>>> case, I think I'll lab up a couple different scenarios (using
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> IGPs, peering with physical links instead of loopbacks, etc.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I definantly understand there is a method to you guys madness,
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> just trying to understand the technologies best I can and identify
>>>>>> gaps
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> you pointed one out regarding my understanding of RPF checks).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all the help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I labbed up your scenario and I think I have an idea of what is going
>>>>>>> on here.  Here are my results:  When I removed BGP completely from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> picture (no router bgp 78) and did a "show ip rpf" for 8.8.8.8 from
>>>>>>> R7
>>>>>>> I received an error that no route existed! This was pretty funny
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> I could like you run "sho ip route" and see it in the unicast routing
>>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFTER REMOVING BGP
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip route ospf
>>>>>>>    8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>> O       8.8.8.8 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:00:04, FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8) failed, no route exists
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems like the reason MBGP was being preferred in your case is
>>>>>>> because the router simply didn't even CONSIDER the route in the
>>>>>>> unicast routing table.  After a reload I received the RPF information
>>>>>>> very briefly...right up until OSPF on Fa0/0 came up and then back to
>>>>>>> the same RPF failure.  If I shut down Fa0/0 the RPF information comes
>>>>>>> back up just fine.  Very strange. It is almost as if the RPF check
>>>>>>> will not consider anything that PIM is not enabled on.  To test this,
>>>>>>> I enabled PIM on Fa0/0 of JUST R7 and ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R7(config-if)#do sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>>  RPF interface: FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.78.8)
>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>>  RPF type: unicast (ospf 1)
>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now of course there is still no PIM neighbor, but the interface
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> is participating in multicast. NOW that we know that path is being
>>>>>>> considered we will bring BGP back up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R7#sh ip bgp ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>> BGP table version is 3, local router ID is 7.7.7.7
>>>>>>> Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
>>>>>>> internal,
>>>>>>>             r RIB-failure, S Stale
>>>>>>> Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
>>>>>>> *> 7.7.7.7/32       0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
>>>>>>> *>i8.8.8.8/32       150.100.87.8             0    100      0 i
>>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>>> R7#
>>>>>>> R7#sh ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>>  RPF interface: FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.78.8)
>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>>  RPF type: unicast (ospf 1)
>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there we have it...OSPF still preferred.  Of course this means
>>>>>>> that on the other end where we still don't have PIM enabled on Fa0/0
>>>>>>> we will face the original problem of the OSPF path not being
>>>>>>> considered.  The best I can tell you here Robert is that it is pretty
>>>>>>> strange behavior...obviously if we could enable PIM on the
>>>>>>> FastEthernet interfaces we wouldn't have to worry about the RPF to
>>>>>>> begin with.  I did want to show you though that there IS a method to
>>>>>>> our madness and those things get put into the books for a reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anybody else has some light to shed on this little mystery I would
>>>>>>> love to hear it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Joe Astorino
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is correct -- But that is talking about BGP only.  If you only
>>>>>>>> had unicast routes in BGP and you had multicast routes in BGP then
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> seems like the multicast is preferred. At that point the AD is the
>>>>>>>> same because they are both coming in via BGP.  That fits in with
>>>>>>>> rule
>>>>>>>> #3 that I posted previously when the AD is the same.  If you have
>>>>>>>> unicast routes in some other IGP like OSPF in your case, and you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> multicast information coming in from MP-BGP it seems that the lower
>>>>>>>> AD
>>>>>>>> is preferred first by the RPF process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, that is not what you are seeing but as you can see that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> what the documentation says.  That is also what I have observed in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> past.  It may have to do with how your iBGP is setup there.  Could
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> try peering on the s0/0 interface instead of the loopback and see
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> happens?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Robert Simmons <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Joe, Thanks for the quick response. Am I mis-understanding this
>>>>>>>>> link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/ip_route/configuration/guide/tbrbover.html
>>>>>>>>> Under the "Multiprotocol BGP Extensions for IP Multicast" paragraph
>>>>>>>>> A multicast routing protocol, such as PIM, uses both the multicast
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> unicast BGP database to source the route, perform Reverse Path
>>>>>>>>> Forwarding
>>>>>>>>> (RPF) lookups for multicast-capable sources, and build a multicast
>>>>>>>>> distribution tree (MDT). The multicast table is the primary source
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> router, but if the route is not found in the multicast table then
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> unicast table is searched. Although multicast can be performed with
>>>>>>>>> unicast
>>>>>>>>> BGP, multicast BGP routes allow an alternative topology to be used
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> RPF.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Joe Astorino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, notice how "sh ip rpf" talks about distance-preferred
>>>>>>>>> lookups.
>>>>>>>>> Check out the following from this Cisco doc:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk828/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094b55.shtml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cisco IOS® calculates the RPF interface in this way. Possible
>>>>>>>>> sources
>>>>>>>>> of RPF information are Unicast Routing Table, MBGP routing table,
>>>>>>>>> DVMRP routing table and Static Mroute table. When you calculate the
>>>>>>>>> RPF interface, primarily administrative distance is used to
>>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>>> exactly which source of information the RPF calculation is based
>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>> The specific rules are:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     All preceding sources of RPF data are searched for a match on
>>>>>>>>> the source IP address. When using Shared Trees, the RP address is
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> instead of the source address.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     If more than one matching route is found, the route with the
>>>>>>>>> lowest administrative distance is used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     If the admin distances are equal, then this order of
>>>>>>>>> preference
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> used:
>>>>>>>>>        1. Static mroutes
>>>>>>>>>        2. DVMRP routes
>>>>>>>>>        3. MBGP routes
>>>>>>>>>        4. Unicast routes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     If multiple entries for a route occur within the same route
>>>>>>>>> table, the longest match route is used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Joe Astorino
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice job on the testing.  I think it may have to do with the fact
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you changed the next-hop manually there with your route-map.  I'd
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interested to see what things look like without that change. In
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> testing I have done in the past to get the results I explained I
>>>>>>>>> had a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> slightly different setup
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) My iBGP peers were not between loopback addresses but on the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> physical addresses of the PIM enabled link
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) I was not changing the next-hop of the multicast networks in BGP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Robert Simmons <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I mocked up the following quick scenario:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     <-------------Non Pim Enabled FastE Link------------->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R7
>>>>>>>>>                   R8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    <-----------------Pim Enabled Serial Link------------->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - OSPF enabled on both links and loopback 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - FastE link is preferred
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - R8 is RP/BSR router
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - R7/R8 has igmp join on both loopback0 interfaces
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this configuration the routers are unable to ping each others
>>>>>>>>> mcast
>>>>>>>>> IP
>>>>>>>>> addresses, which is correct behavior due to RPF issue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Added the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -MBGP (I) configuration between R7 & R8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Set next-hop IP address for loopback to the Serial Link
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this configuration the RPF has been corrected. I'm able to ping
>>>>>>>>> mcast
>>>>>>>>> interfaces from both routers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since this BGP configuration is iBGP and not eBGP this again leads
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> believe that the multicast BGP table is looked at first and then
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> unicast
>>>>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Configs are below:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ***********R7**************
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hostname R7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ip multicast-routing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 7.7.7.7 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip igmp join-group 225.0.0.7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.87.7 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  encapsulation ppp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  clock rate 2000000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.78.7 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  speed 100
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  full-duplex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> router ospf 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  log-adjacency-changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 7.7.7.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 150.100.78.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 150.100.87.7 0.0.0.0 area 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> router bgp 78
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 remote-as 78
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 update-source Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  address-family ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 activate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 8.8.8.8 route-map MCAST in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no auto-summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no synchronization
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 7.7.7.7 mask 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  exit-address-family
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> route-map MCAST permit 10
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  set ip next-hop 150.100.87.8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R7#show ip route
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    7.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       7.7.7.7 is directly connected, Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O       8.8.8.8 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:46:22, FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 7 subnets, 2 masks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O       150.100.108.0/24 [110/2] via 150.100.78.8, 00:46:22,
>>>>>>>>> FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.8/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.78.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet2/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R7#show ip bgp ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BGP table version is 3, local router ID is 7.7.7.7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> internal,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             r RIB-failure, S Stale
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *> 7.7.7.7/32       0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *>i8.8.8.8/32       150.100.87.8             0    100      0 i
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R7#show ip rpf 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (8.8.8.8)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF interface: Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.87.8)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 8.8.8.8/32
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF type: mbgp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ***********R8**************
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hostname R8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ip multicast-routing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 8.8.8.8 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.78.8 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  speed 100
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  full-duplex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interface Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip address 150.100.87.8 255.255.255.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip pim sparse-mode
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  encapsulation ppp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ip igmp join-group 225.0.0.8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  clock rate 2000000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> router ospf 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  log-adjacency-changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 area 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> router bgp 78
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  bgp log-neighbor-changes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 remote-as 78
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 update-source Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  address-family ipv4 multicast
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 activate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  neighbor 7.7.7.7 route-map MCAST in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no auto-summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  no synchronization
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  network 8.8.8.8 mask 255.255.255.255
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  exit-address-family
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ip pim bsr-candidate Loopback0 10
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ip pim rp-candidate Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> route-map MCAST permit 10
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  set ip next-hop 150.100.87.7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R8#show ip route
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    7.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O       7.7.7.7 [110/2] via 150.100.78.7, 00:53:22, FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    8.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       8.8.8.8 is directly connected, Loopback0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 4 subnets, 2 masks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.7/32 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.87.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C       150.100.78.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R8#show ip rpf 7.7.7.7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RPF information for ? (7.7.7.7)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF interface: Serial0/0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF neighbor: ? (150.100.87.7)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF route/mask: 7.7.7.7/32
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF type: mbgp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  RPF recursion count: 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Doing distance-preferred lookups across tables
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Joe Astorino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it is eBGP you are fine. If it is iBGP the rpf will still prefer
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> unicast routing table. My suggestion is that you play with both
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> running "sh ip rpf"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Robert Simmons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: CCIE OSL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab 5 Volume 3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Apr 13, 2010 3:56 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IPExperts,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was working on Troubleshooting Ticket No. 4 (Multicast in AS25)
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>>>> able to make it work but, when I looked at the DSG I noticed that
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>> added the "distance bgp 20 20 20" command to the multicast address
>>>>>>>>> family.
>>>>>>>>> The solution guide says this was done because RPF lookup is still
>>>>>>>>> dependent
>>>>>>>>> on AD but, I thought the way RPF worked was that it looked at the
>>>>>>>>> multicast
>>>>>>>>> BGP database first and then the unicast table. Since you are
>>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> route's next-hop via MBGP route-map (pointing it to the sparse
>>>>>>>>> enabled
>>>>>>>>> interface) my thoughts are you wouldn't need to lower the MBGP AD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at
>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>
>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on
>> Demand, Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for
>> the Cisco CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider)
>> certification(s) with training locations throughout the United States,
>> Europe, South Asia and Australia. Be sure to visit our online
>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at
>> www.ipexpert.com
>



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Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347
Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
Mailto: [email protected]
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