What... you guys are forgetting the important stuff like DECNET, Banyan
Vines, Token Ring, DLSW.  Some of these were still on the test when I took
it.  And I used to work with them all in production environments, including
Appletalk and IPX.

IPv6 to me is very similar to IPX in addressing so no big deal.  You all
will learn it and in the future wonder why you ever complained about it.  

With HEX it is actually a lot easier to do subneting, wildcard masks, etc.
You just have to work with it for a while.

Steve you can do all your addressing now using letters so it is easier to
remember like: 2002:BAD:BEAF:BAD:BEAF:BAD:BEAF:1,
2002:BEAF:BAD:BEAF:BAD:BEAF:BAD:1, 2002:FEED:BEAF:FEED:BEAF:FEED:BEAF:1, and
2002:ED:BED:ED:BED:ED:BED:1 No reason you can't make this transition easier
on yourself.  Just get creative with your addressing standards at work.

Matt I will give you some more easy ones to remember 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are
Google DNS servers, you also didn't include 4.2.2.1 which is the other old
GTE DNS Server ;)

Regards,
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, Steve
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:26 AM
To: Matt Hill
Cc: [email protected]; CCIE OSL
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space

And AppleTalk too! I do agree with you and understand that IPv6 is here to
stay, I just hope I don't get an all IPv6 lab, since most of my experience
is with IPv4. That's all

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:17 PM
To: Di Bias, Steve
Cc: [email protected]; Mesikoo Kamali; CCIE OSL
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space

Less than 10 years ago we all needed to worry about rubbish like IPX, LAT
and SNA.

I didnt mind throwing those out the window to spend more time on IP.
Especially when we had networks which would use two or more protocols
concurrently.

Bring on the superior protocol that has been designed from the ground up
with the lessons learned from the past.

Cheers,
Matt

CCIE #22386
CCSI #31207

On 5 February 2011 17:08, Di Bias, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now if only our Cisco routers dynamically registered their hostnames as a
AAAA records within DNS!
>
> I suppose I'm being a little hard on IPv6 so let's be honest here. I hate
change!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Steve Di Bias
> Network Engineer - Information Systems Valley Health System - Las 
> Vegas Office - 702- 369-7594 Cell - 702-241-1801 
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:08 PM
> To: Di Bias, Steve
> Cc: [email protected]; Mesikoo Kamali; CCIE OSL
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space
>
> Thats what DNS is for.  :)
>
> AAAA
>
> Seriously though, the only IPv4 address I have ever remembered in my whole
life is 4.2.2.2 so having a string 128 bits long vs 32 bits long makes no
difference to me.  Subnetting and summarisation are far easier with v6 (all
you need to do is look, as it is all divisible by two unlike v4).  I also
cant decode hex without a calculator and you really dont need to.  Just look
at where the numbers are different in your addresses and thats it.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> On 5 February 2011 15:50, Di Bias, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>> LOL
>>
>> While IPv6 solves some of the issues with IPv4 I still can't get used to
it. I understand it's inevitability, and there is nothing I can do about it,
but I still love IPv4!  I mean, at least with IPv4 I can remember the ip
addresses of most of the critical network gear at work, not so with IPv6.
With IPv6 I can't even remember one address, it just seems like total
nonsense to me.  Maybe one day when I've seen it in action on a live network
I will feel differently, at least I hope so...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:51 PM
>> To: Di Bias, Steve; [email protected]; Mesikoo
>> Kamali; CCIE OSL
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space
>>
>> IPv6 is far easier to work with!
>>
>> I'm glad v4 is gone. No one wants to move to v6 so it means I can sit on
my arse all day and do nothing now.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(r) from Optus
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]>
>> Sender: [email protected]
>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:47:20
>> To: Mesikoo Kamali<[email protected]>;
>> [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space
>>
>> Soon we'll have ipv6 only CCIE labs.... Yuck!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mesikoo
>> Kamali
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 12:04 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IPv4 address space
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a little late but figured it was news worthy.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/announcements/2011/20110203.html
>>
>>
>>
>> /cheers
>>
>>
>>
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