Agreed!

Thank you. 

Steve Di Bias
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Valley Health System - Las Vegas
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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marko Milivojevic
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:37 PM
To: Jay Taylor
Cc: CCIE OSL
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab experience

Which, IMHO, is a skill any self-respecting CCIE should have to begin with
:-)

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:34, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Luckily Proctorlabs has a remote controlled power supply but since the 
> lab does not I would recommend knowing how to both boot and reload from 
> rommon.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> That's what we do in ProctorLabs every day, I'm afraid :-)
>>
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>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>
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>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:30, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Reboot it until it does.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, marc abel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what do you do when the router can't see the flash?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Marko Milivojevic < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > It's a complaint about R2 in ProctorLabs, which has chronic 
>>>> > problem of sometimes not booting and requiring either to be 
>>>> > initialized or power
>>>> cycled
>>>> > to do so.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>> >
>>>> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>> >
>>>> > Mailto: [email protected]
>>>> > Telephone: <%2B1.810.326.1444> 
>>>> > <%2B1.810.326.1444><%2B1.810.326.1444>
>>>> +1.810.326.1444
>>>> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:19, Liqua 
>>>> > <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Congrats - Nice write up, plus you deserve a beer or two after that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Perhaps being dumb (and hope it's not NDA) but what does "had a
>>>> router pull
>>>> >> an 'R2' on me" mean please ?  What's an R2 ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Liqua.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --- On Wed, 16/3/11, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
>>>> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab experience
>>>> >> To: "CCIE OSL" <[email protected]>, 
>>>> >> [email protected]
>>>> >> Date: Wednesday, 16 March, 2011, 15:41
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Pi day (3/14) was good to me; I passed the routing and switching 
>>>> >> lab
>>>> to get
>>>> >> my digits! CCIE #28391
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I stayed at Comfort Suites this time rather than the Wingate 
>>>> >> next
>>>> door and
>>>> >> was happy I switched. Much nicer hotel - cleaner/newer room, 
>>>> >> better breakfast and free beer from 5-7pm (Mon, Tue and Wed only 
>>>> >> I think.)
>>>> They
>>>> >> will shuttle you to other nearby places but I didn't ask about 
>>>> >> the
>>>> lab.
>>>> >> Regardless, I recommend renting a car so you don't have to rely 
>>>> >> on
>>>> someone
>>>> >> else on such an important day.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Overall I felt my lab this time was more difficult than last 
>>>> >> time but
>>>> I was
>>>> >> more prepared. Strange how a day can feel like it is dragging on
>>>> forever
>>>> >> yet
>>>> >> going by so quickly at the same time. I felt much more rushed on 
>>>> >> this attempt and was very aware of the clock throughout the 
>>>> >> whole day. For
>>>> my
>>>> >> last attempt I also said that I was having fun for about 75% of 
>>>> >> the
>>>> day and
>>>> >> that was not the case this time. I had a number of times during 
>>>> >> the
>>>> day
>>>> >> where I was rather stressed about either mistakes I'd made or 
>>>> >> not
>>>> being
>>>> >> able
>>>> >> to think through the solution I wanted to use.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I struggled more with the troubleshooting section this time than
>>>> before and
>>>> >> ended with only 2-3 minutes to spare (after 1 round of verifying 
>>>> >> all
>>>> the
>>>> >> tickets at the end.) One good thing about the TS section now is 
>>>> >> Cisco
>>>> is
>>>> >> VERY clear about what you need to accomplish in order to 
>>>> >> consider a
>>>> ticket
>>>> >> solved. Even so, there were a couple tickets that I felt I made 
>>>> >> too
>>>> drastic
>>>> >> of changes to fix the problem and wasn't sure if I'd get the 
>>>> >> points
>>>> for
>>>> >> them. Even though my solution matched the output they wanted I
>>>> wouldn't be
>>>> >> surprised at all if I missed points on those.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Config section was more complicated than my first attempt but 
>>>> >> there
>>>> was
>>>> >> nothing in there that I had absolutely no idea how to accomplish.
>>>> There
>>>> >> were
>>>> >> several topics I needed help from the DocCD and I asked the 
>>>> >> proctor
>>>> quite a
>>>> >> few questions again. I got off to a fairly slow start and by
>>>> lunchtime
>>>> >> wasn't even done with IGP config. After lunch it felt like 
>>>> >> things
>>>> were just
>>>> >> getting worse as I struggled with a couple sections and started
>>>> making some
>>>> >> really stupid typos. In the end I had to scrap all my BGP config 
>>>> >> and
>>>> start
>>>> >> over due to non-technical mistakes. By then I was freaking out 
>>>> >> pretty
>>>> bad
>>>> >> and before starting BGP over I took a bathroom break and tried 
>>>> >> to
>>>> 'reset'
>>>> >> myself. I pushed through the rest of the routing config and by 
>>>> >> the
>>>> time I
>>>> >> started on services and misc topics I didn't think I had enough 
>>>> >> time
>>>> to
>>>> >> finish. Somehow I was able to knock all those tasks out in a 
>>>> >> pretty
>>>> short
>>>> >> amount of time and still had an hour left to verify. Line by 
>>>> >> line I
>>>> went
>>>> >> through the entire lab and verified points for each section. In 
>>>> >> the
>>>> end
>>>> >> there were a couple tasks that I wasn't sure if I'd get points 
>>>> >> for
>>>> but the
>>>> >> rest I felt very good about. I did go back and change a few 
>>>> >> things in
>>>> that
>>>> >> last hour and had a freak out moment in the last 15 minutes when 
>>>> >> I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> >> get something working again that I tried to fix. That last 
>>>> >> change
>>>> took me
>>>> >> right up until the last 5 minutes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You hear it all the time from IPexpert instructors and I can't 
>>>> >> stress
>>>> this
>>>> >> enough - READ THE ENTIRE LAB BEFORE YOU START. Tasks at the end 
>>>> >> can
>>>> have a
>>>> >> big impact on how you do things early on. If you don't read the 
>>>> >> whole
>>>> thing
>>>> >> you will likely be rebuilding some of the basics to allow later 
>>>> >> tasks
>>>> to
>>>> >> work correctly.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Two things that stood out to me about my lab day:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    1. Had a router pull an 'R2' on me twice throughout the day when I
>>>> >>    rebooted it. The proctor was clear that this was my problem 
>>>> >> to fix
>>>> even
>>>> >> when
>>>> >>    the router didn't recognize it's flash memory.
>>>> >>    2. A task was worded using KB for a function that clearly 
>>>> >> required
>>>> Kb. I
>>>> >>    asked the proctor a couple times and she insisted that I 
>>>> >> should configure it
>>>> >>    as if it requested Kb. I almost started the task by 
>>>> >> converting
>>>> bytes to
>>>> >> bits
>>>> >>    and that would have been completely wrong based on what I was
>>>> told.
>>>> >> After
>>>> >>    the lab she agreed with me that the lab wording is misleading.
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