Wait, you are saying testing the technical competency of someone applying for a technical position may not be legal? Why would this be?
or are you referring to the legalities of GNS3? -Marc <snip> Maybe because Cisco does not want to liaise themselves with a unauthorized program to test potential candidates. I could imagine that. After all you are using their IOS, even if you did purchase it i can imagine there would be some clause in your contract preventing this from happening (i.e. your purchase of IOS code does not allow you to use it for teaching purposes in mass environments). I mean, all of a sudden dynamips becomes a lot more of commercial value once it is used to test potential engineering candidates for a company and they would want to control the quality of the program. Just a hunch. On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:17 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: VOL 3 Lab5 IGP redistribution (Marko Milivojevic) > 2. DHCP (Thomas Raabo - Zitcom A/S) > 3. GNS3 as a HR tool (Combatant 101) > 4. Re: GNS3 as a HR tool (Dwann Hall) > 5. verification wildcardmask (Alef) > 6. Re: verification wildcardmask (gaurav nunia) > 7. Re: GNS3 as a HR tool (marc abel) > 8. Re: GNS3 as a HR tool (Dwann Hall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:30:13 -0700 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Aaron Moreck <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] VOL 3 Lab5 IGP redistribution > Message-ID: > <cagdym0xf506t_61xtxskbz9jmsus3h-lrpfstjkomu3upwm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 08:22, Aaron Moreck <[email protected]> wrote: >> Can anyone shed some light on the DSG method of redistribution for Task 2.4 >> >> >> The convention that is used strays from the method talked about by Marko. ?I >> cant seem to make sense of the logic in the filtering. > > The logic is the same (since I wrote it), it just approaches the > "routing domain" a bit differently. In that DSG I treated every router > as a routing source, instead of treating, say, EIGRP as a source. > Therefore, every router gets a different tag. In the Video walkthrough > for that lab, I used yet another approach, just to illustrate more > than one possible solution for the same problem. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert > > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture > > Mailto: [email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 20:19:16 +0000 > From: Thomas Raabo - Zitcom A/S <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] DHCP > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Why do most IPexpert workbooks alway exclude the routers IP when the > configuration guide explain it in this way? > > What should i do in the lab?... > > Excluding IP Addresses > > Perform this task to specify IP addresses (excluded addresses) that the DHCP > server should not assign to clients. > > The IP address configured on the router interface is automatically excluded > from the DHCP address pool. The DHCP server assumes that all other IP > addresses in a DHCP address pool subnet are available for assigning to DHCP > clients. > > You need to exclude addresses from the pool if the DHCP server should not > allocate those IP addresses. An example usage scenario is when two DHCP > servers are set up to service the same network segment (subnet) for > redundancy. If the two DHCP servers do not coordinate their services with > each other using a protocol such as DHCP failover, then each DHCP server must > be configured to allocate from a nonoverlapping set of addresses in the > shared subnet. See the "Configuring Manual Bindings: Example" section for a > configuration example. > > Med venlig hilsen | Best regards > Thomas Raabo > Netv?rksansvarlig > > > > _____________________________________________ > [email protected] | Direkte: +45 69 10 60 18 | Tlf.: +45 70 23 55 66 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:38:23 +0100 > From: Combatant 101 <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 as a HR tool > Message-ID: > <ca+0jpop0e_1zs0vkcrx7irmwoupdaapu0bdqg5m-tp8esn6...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi All, > > Doing some consultancy work for a customer and got chatting about my CCIE > studies and talked about GNS3. > > To cut a long story short, The client commissioned me to implement GNS3 and > design a GNS3 technical test. > > They are currently recruiting for a 2nd line support engineer and really > wanted a tool that HR can administrate to help gauge the technical > competency of their candidates and based on their result, they would then > decide if the candidate is to be moved up to the next stage of the interview > process. > > I've designed this 'workbook style lab' to be a walk in the park for any > competent CCNP engineer and even very doable for some of the rusty CCNP > engineers and maybe a highly proficient CCNA guy - Basically it should catch > out the brain dumpers and blaggers and help make the HR process more > efficient. > > It the first time I've done something like this and would like to know what > you all think, particularly the guys who have heaps of experience in writing > workbooks etc. > > I try to design it so that each tasks is some what independent e.g. if they > cant do task 3 it does not mean they can no longer do task 4, 5, 6 etc > > As it is my first time, I'm also very happy to here some criticism etc (no > ego, always happy to learn from mistakes!) > > Is it too difficult for the audience being targeted? Is it too easy? Is it > doable but not within 45 minutes? Any feedback would be appreciated. > > I made the pass mark 7 out of 11 (there a bonus task which if successfully > completed can override the pass mark - each 'exam' is assessed individually > with a script I've written that checks for the result of show commands and > looks for certain configuration that can only be done in one way etc if they > can't be bothered to look at the configuration of each device themselves - > Though it something I've said I'm happy to do). > > I may even look to assign a weight against each task and score that way as > some tasks are very easy than others... > > The test can be viewed here: http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com/ > > The .NET files and pre-config can also be downloaded from there. > > It's designed it to be a 30 - 45 minute test max. > > Look forward to your comments, > > Cheers > > Combatant101 > > http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:59:50 -0400 > From: Dwann Hall <[email protected]> > To: Combatant 101 <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 as a HR tool > Message-ID: > <CAEEC52rvyB=jgfgz+pnsbc7umwshg4kxv46g79p6meef9nm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I had the same idea but was warned that such a test may not be legal...just > verify in your state > On Jul 6, 2011 6:44 PM, "Combatant 101" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Doing some consultancy work for a customer and got chatting about my CCIE >> studies and talked about GNS3. >> >> To cut a long story short, The client commissioned me to implement GNS3 > and >> design a GNS3 technical test. >> >> They are currently recruiting for a 2nd line support engineer and really >> wanted a tool that HR can administrate to help gauge the technical >> competency of their candidates and based on their result, they would then >> decide if the candidate is to be moved up to the next stage of the > interview >> process. >> >> I've designed this 'workbook style lab' to be a walk in the park for any >> competent CCNP engineer and even very doable for some of the rusty CCNP >> engineers and maybe a highly proficient CCNA guy - Basically it should > catch >> out the brain dumpers and blaggers and help make the HR process more >> efficient. >> >> It the first time I've done something like this and would like to know > what >> you all think, particularly the guys who have heaps of experience in > writing >> workbooks etc. >> >> I try to design it so that each tasks is some what independent e.g. if > they >> cant do task 3 it does not mean they can no longer do task 4, 5, 6 etc >> >> As it is my first time, I'm also very happy to here some criticism etc (no >> ego, always happy to learn from mistakes!) >> >> Is it too difficult for the audience being targeted? Is it too easy? Is it >> doable but not within 45 minutes? Any feedback would be appreciated. >> >> I made the pass mark 7 out of 11 (there a bonus task which if successfully >> completed can override the pass mark - each 'exam' is assessed > individually >> with a script I've written that checks for the result of show commands and >> looks for certain configuration that can only be done in one way etc if > they >> can't be bothered to look at the configuration of each device themselves - >> Though it something I've said I'm happy to do). >> >> I may even look to assign a weight against each task and score that way as >> some tasks are very easy than others... >> >> The test can be viewed here: http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com/ >> >> The .NET files and pre-config can also be downloaded from there. >> >> It's designed it to be a 30 - 45 minute test max. >> >> Look forward to your comments, >> >> Cheers >> >> Combatant101 >> >> http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 00:43:39 +0100 > From: Alef <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected] IE" <[email protected]> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] verification wildcardmask > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Can anyone confirm that if i want to include both 10.0.1.4 and 200.0.3.0 in a > single statement, that i would have to use a wildcard mask of 194.0.2.4 ? > > this would allow for 5 bits difference in total, 32 networks > and the following octet possibilities > [0,2,8,64,128,192,200,202]][0][1,3][4,0] > > 0.0.1.4 64.0.1.4 200.0.1.4 > 0.0.1.0 64.0.1.0 200.0.1.0 > 0.0.3.4 64.0.3.4 200.0.3.4 > 0.0.3.0 64.0.3.0 200.0.3.0 > > 2.0.1.4 128.0.1.4 202.0.1.4 > 2.0.1.0 128.0.1.0 202.0.1.0 > 2.0.3.4 128.0.3.4 202.0.3.4 > 2.0.3.0 128.0.3.0 202.0.3.0 > > 8.0.1.4 192.0.1.4 > 8.0.1.0 192.0.1.0 > 8.0.3.4 192.0.3.4 > 8.0.3.0 192.0.3.0 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:21:16 +0530 > From: gaurav nunia <[email protected]> > To: Alef <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] verification wildcardmask > Message-ID: > <CADv70h137UxzOyvdvb2BwicXNCUeb0ocOKvh-Z_fz2Z+zFXx=a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > edition- i meant to say that the wildcard bits will include 32 addresses, > with ip addresses A, B, included. > > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:18 AM, gaurav nunia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> let say your both IPs as A, B. >> >> then >> >> A 'AND' B === 8.0.1.0 >> >> and >> >> A 'XOR' B = 194.0.2.4 = 5 ones, gives 32 ip addresses, >> so a ip address of 8.0.1.0 with a wildcard mask 'what u computed' will >> include both as u suggested. :) >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Alef <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Can anyone confirm that if i want to include both 10.0.1.4 and 200.0.3.0 >>> in a single statement, that i would have to use a wildcard mask of 194.0.2.4 >>> ? >>> >>> this would allow for 5 bits difference in total, 32 networks >>> and the following octet possibilities >>> [0,2,8,64,128,192,200,202]][0][1,3][4,0] >>> >>> 0.0.1.4 64.0.1.4 200.0.1.4 >>> 0.0.1.0 64.0.1.0 200.0.1.0 >>> 0.0.3.4 64.0.3.4 200.0.3.4 >>> 0.0.3.0 64.0.3.0 200.0.3.0 >>> >>> 2.0.1.4 128.0.1.4 202.0.1.4 >>> 2.0.1.0 128.0.1.0 202.0.1.0 >>> 2.0.3.4 128.0.3.4 202.0.3.4 >>> 2.0.3.0 128.0.3.0 202.0.3.0 >>> >>> 8.0.1.4 192.0.1.4 >>> 8.0.1.0 192.0.1.0 >>> 8.0.3.4 192.0.3.4 >>> 8.0.3.0 192.0.3.0 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> thanks >> gaurav >> >> http://routing0sand1s.blogspot.com/ >> >> > > > -- > thanks > gaurav > > http://routing0sand1s.blogspot.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:10:26 -0500 > From: marc abel <[email protected]> > To: Dwann Hall <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 as a HR tool > Message-ID: > <canyr4znrxkankjzfvzannyxubfo8nj2bna+r-5t-ce1ko1c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Wait, you are saying testing the technical competency of someone > applying for a technical position may not be legal? Why would this be? > > or are you referring to the legalities of GNS3? > > -Marc > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dwann Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> I had the same idea but was warned that such a test may not be legal...just >> verify in your state >> On Jul 6, 2011 6:44 PM, "Combatant 101" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Doing some consultancy work for a customer and got chatting about my CCIE >>> studies and talked about GNS3. >>> >>> To cut a long story short, The client commissioned me to implement GNS3 >> and >>> design a GNS3 technical test. >>> >>> They are currently recruiting for a 2nd line support engineer and really >>> wanted a tool that HR can administrate to help gauge the technical >>> competency of their candidates and based on their result, they would then >>> decide if the candidate is to be moved up to the next stage of the >> interview >>> process. >>> >>> I've designed this 'workbook style lab' to be a walk in the park for any >>> competent CCNP engineer and even very doable for some of the rusty CCNP >>> engineers and maybe a highly proficient CCNA guy - Basically it should >> catch >>> out the brain dumpers and blaggers and help make the HR process more >>> efficient. >>> >>> It the first time I've done something like this and would like to know >> what >>> you all think, particularly the guys who have heaps of experience in >> writing >>> workbooks etc. >>> >>> I try to design it so that each tasks is some what independent e.g. if >> they >>> cant do task 3 it does not mean they can no longer do task 4, 5, 6 etc >>> >>> As it is my first time, I'm also very happy to here some criticism etc (no >>> ego, always happy to learn from mistakes!) >>> >>> Is it too difficult for the audience being targeted? Is it too easy? Is it >>> doable but not within 45 minutes? Any feedback would be appreciated. >>> >>> I made the pass mark 7 out of 11 (there a bonus task which if successfully >>> completed can override the pass mark - each 'exam' is assessed >> individually >>> with a script I've written that checks for the result of show commands and >>> looks for certain configuration that can only be done in one way etc if >> they >>> can't be bothered to look at the configuration of each device themselves - >>> Though it something I've said I'm happy to do). >>> >>> I may even look to assign a weight against each task and score that way as >>> some tasks are very easy than others... >>> >>> The test can be viewed here: http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> The .NET files and pre-config can also be downloaded from there. >>> >>> It's designed it to be a 30 - 45 minute test max. >>> >>> Look forward to your comments, >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Combatant101 >>> >>> http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:17:31 -0400 > From: Dwann Hall <[email protected]> > To: marc abel <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] GNS3 as a HR tool > Message-ID: > <caeec52o34qfidpa2p4fvrjnvz42ksv6c-lg5ya6koaudinp...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm saying run the test by HR before giving it just to be sure that it does > not violate any laws. I was told that it may not be legal but I haven't > verified for myself. Your hr/legal dept can verify for you. -d > On Jul 6, 2011 10:10 PM, "marc abel" <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wait, you are saying testing the technical competency of someone >> applying for a technical position may not be legal? Why would this be? >> >> or are you referring to the legalities of GNS3? >> >> -Marc >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dwann Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I had the same idea but was warned that such a test may not be > legal...just >>> verify in your state >>> On Jul 6, 2011 6:44 PM, "Combatant 101" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Doing some consultancy work for a customer and got chatting about my > CCIE >>>> studies and talked about GNS3. >>>> >>>> To cut a long story short, The client commissioned me to implement GNS3 >>> and >>>> design a GNS3 technical test. >>>> >>>> They are currently recruiting for a 2nd line support engineer and really >>>> wanted a tool that HR can administrate to help gauge the technical >>>> competency of their candidates and based on their result, they would > then >>>> decide if the candidate is to be moved up to the next stage of the >>> interview >>>> process. >>>> >>>> I've designed this 'workbook style lab' to be a walk in the park for any >>>> competent CCNP engineer and even very doable for some of the rusty CCNP >>>> engineers and maybe a highly proficient CCNA guy - Basically it should >>> catch >>>> out the brain dumpers and blaggers and help make the HR process more >>>> efficient. >>>> >>>> It the first time I've done something like this and would like to know >>> what >>>> you all think, particularly the guys who have heaps of experience in >>> writing >>>> workbooks etc. >>>> >>>> I try to design it so that each tasks is some what independent e.g. if >>> they >>>> cant do task 3 it does not mean they can no longer do task 4, 5, 6 etc >>>> >>>> As it is my first time, I'm also very happy to here some criticism etc > (no >>>> ego, always happy to learn from mistakes!) >>>> >>>> Is it too difficult for the audience being targeted? Is it too easy? Is > it >>>> doable but not within 45 minutes? Any feedback would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> I made the pass mark 7 out of 11 (there a bonus task which if > successfully >>>> completed can override the pass mark - each 'exam' is assessed >>> individually >>>> with a script I've written that checks for the result of show commands > and >>>> looks for certain configuration that can only be done in one way etc if >>> they >>>> can't be bothered to look at the configuration of each device themselves > - >>>> Though it something I've said I'm happy to do). >>>> >>>> I may even look to assign a weight against each task and score that way > as >>>> some tasks are very easy than others... >>>> >>>> The test can be viewed here: http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com/ >>>> >>>> The .NET files and pre-config can also be downloaded from there. >>>> >>>> It's designed it to be a 30 - 45 minute test max. >>>> >>>> Look forward to your comments, >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Combatant101 >>>> >>>> http://myitgeekblog.wordpress.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> > > > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 > *************************************** _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
