Cedric,

I dont think you have a clear understanding on what a confederation is.   A
confederation is  away so split up an AS into smaller AS's  and still make
them act as one big AS.  The reasons to do this could be scalability,
aquirint other networks and not wanting to renumber BGP, or to over come the
full mesh requirement of BGP without using route reflectors.

Example Lets say  R2 , R4 , R5 and R6 are running BGP.   R2 and R4 are in AS
24 and peer with each other (iBGP).   R5 and R6  are in AS 56 and peer with
each other (iBGP).   You can make a confederation AS 2456 which is made up
of AS 24 and AS56.   The (eBGP) connection between AS 24 and AS 56 would be
configured as eBGP but would act more like iBGP.   If any router R2,R4,R5,
or R6 peered with a thrid AS the third AS would think they are peering with
AS2456.

To answer your question below.  Yes if you applied a route-map of something
like that to the peer group

neighbor PEERGROUP route-map MyMAP

it would apply the route-map to .4 , .5 , and .6
Hope this helps

Aaron



On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Cedric King <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It was not understanding how peer groups worked after labbing things up, my
> thought process was that it did the same thing as Confederations for
> managing
> large Scale BGP in the sense of applying changes or adding policies to the
> one
> peer and things trickled down to the group...
>
>

> ex...
>
> R1
> router bgp 1
> neighbor PEERGROUP peer-group
> neighbor PEERGROUP remote-as 1
> neighbor PEERGROUP upd lo0
>
> neighbor 200.0.0.4 peer-group PEERGROUP
> neighbor 200.0.0.5 peer-group PEERGROUP
> neighbor 200.0.0.6 peer-group PEERGROUP
>
> now if I apply a filter, will it not trickle down to the rest of the group
> the
> same way if I'm adding this to a Confederation ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Hill <[email protected]>
> To: "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Cedric King <[email protected]>; "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 5:40:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Peer Group vs Confederation
>
> I think he is thinking of route reflectors not peer-groups.  Although
> you could use a peer-group to establish and define all the
> route-reflector-clients.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> On 18 July 2011 00:51, Di Bias, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Cedric I'm a little confused by the question my self. If you're looking
> at ease
> >of configuration confederations aren't the answer, for that you want peer
> groups
> >or configuration templates. If you need break up your IGP or can't have
> full
> >mesh then you would use confederations or route reflectors depending upon
> what's
> >being asked of you
> >
> > Cedric King <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey Gang,
> >
> > I'm preparing for November... 3rd time is a charm.. I would like to know,
> which
> > is more convenient for management on in a large scale BGP environment...
> >
> > Peer Group or Confederation  and does one hold more weight over the other
> ?
> >
> >
> > v/r
> >
> > Cedric
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