George, let me tell you, you are not, as anyone else here a point of reference to me. I have not started this topic because I wanted to compare and assess people, but because I am asking for better customer service as I am The customer of IPX (and not yours) so I got the right asking for that.
The main reason for 4 hour timeslots for me, as for many people who responded directly to me or for those who had the courage to copy also the R&S forum, is that I want to be exercising 1-2 exercises from the workbook per the vrack session, which are not mocklabs, just to practice a specific technology, without having to waste the rest of the paid 8hour slot. If you George do not get it, and do not want to understand, I do not mind. What I do care of is whether my service provider (IPX) does understand mine and others needs. Marian Odoslané z iPadu / Sent from iPad Dňa 9.6.2012, o 6:29, [email protected] napísal: > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: vrack time slots availability (George Leslie) > 2. Re: vrack time slots availability (Jay McMickle) > 3. Re: vrack time slots availability (Marko Milivojevic) > 4. active vlan (oo IPX) > 5. Re: vrack time slots availability (Tom Kacprzynski) > 6. Re: active vlan (Marko Milivojevic) > 7. Re: active vlan (Bob McCouch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:56:36 +0000 > From: George Leslie <[email protected]> > To: IPExpert Study List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > > > Hello all, > > My we have a lot of moaning minnies on the forum of late. > > So thought I?d pitch in my 2p worth (which is about 3 cents > to all you in the US!) > > I personally like 8 hours slots (ok 7h 45 min). Not 4 hours lots, 8 hour. > IPExpert?s mission in life is to prepare us > for the real CCIE lab exam. It is 8 > hours in length. Not offering (close to) > 8 hour slots would be a failure in that mission. They would then be faced > with a mass of > complaints about how having only 4 hour slots is not a realistic > representation > of the real lab. > > You see their dilemma? > In the space of a few days, they have had people complain that 8 hours > are too long and then some turn around and complains about losing 15 minutes > at > the end of the lab. They cannot cater > for everyone. So, their choice is to > give you as close possible to lab experience given the tidy up time. > > When you all bought your BLSs or rack time, you ALL KNEW > what you were buying. Don?t turn around and > complain about it now. > > For those of you that want 4 hour slots: > > Use GNS, buy your own kit from EBay, borrow some pieces from > work, or use one of the many other vendors who offer smaller timeslots. You > have more options than IPExpert. Or, put two 4 hour slots back to back and > use > an 8 hour session. > > For those from Europe that have complained about the start > times, grow up. I?m in the UK, and 5 > hours behind Proctor Labs start times. > My start times are 05:00, 13:00 or 21:00. I use 13:00 if I can, or 05:00 if I > must. All you lot east of here have an > extra one or two hours earlier in bed compared to me, yet you are still > complaining?. > > For those of you that want the 8h 15, I?m sorry, but 24 hrs > divided by 8 hours 15 does not end up in an whole number. If that 15 minutes > is so important to you, > then start your lab 15 minutes before your proctor labs session starts, for > your > read through, your diagrams etc. Or > start it 30 minutes earlier if you need to. > Or do the layer 2 section by doing offline scripts in notepad that you > can merely paste into the switches to save time typing at the command > line. So many ways to save the 15 minutes. > > Time keeping is part of the CCIE discipline, and this > teaches you some. > > To bods at IPExpert/Protcor Labs: don?t listen! You have it right! > > Regards, George. > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:52:51 -0700 >> To: [email protected] >> CC: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Josh Atterbury >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Maybe IPX should update the workbooks to say estimated for 7:45 hours :) >> >> Honestly, if someone can finish all the Volume 2 and Volume 3 labs in >> under 8 hours, I'd be beyond impressed. Those 15 minutes really don't >> change anything. >> >> We *could* offer 8 hour time slots, but then it will be students' >> responsibility to clean up the pod they work on. We have had this long >> time ago. Didn't work :-) >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:01:49 -0500 > From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]> > To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I agree with the scripted cleanup. Why not have a 15 minute gap between > session availability and not eat into a students paid 8 hour timeslot? > > This will be even more of an issue with the 4 hour slots you are creating. ;) > > Regards, > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) > Sent from iJay > > On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Josh Atterbury >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Maybe IPX should update the workbooks to say estimated for 7:45 hours :) >> >> Honestly, if someone can finish all the Volume 2 and Volume 3 labs in >> under 8 hours, I'd be beyond impressed. Those 15 minutes really don't >> change anything. >> >> We *could* offer 8 hour time slots, but then it will be students' >> responsibility to clean up the pod they work on. We have had this long >> time ago. Didn't work :-) >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:42:45 -0700 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Jay McMickle <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability > Message-ID: > <cagdym0xbf947eqb36o-taafwjhcjxo-qzlhtgzwsc72hhdh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The only difference would be eating at the beginning and not at the > end. Besides, we're not eating up session times. ProctorLab session > times are sold as 7:45, unless you have back-to-back sessions, in > which case they are 15:45. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jay McMickle <[email protected]> wrote: >> I agree with the scripted cleanup. Why not have a 15 minute gap between >> session availability and not eat into a students paid 8 hour timeslot? >> >> This will be even more of an issue with the 4 hour slots you are creating. ;) >> >> Regards, >> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) >> Sent from iJay >> >> On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Josh Atterbury >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Maybe IPX should update the workbooks to say estimated for 7:45 hours :) >>> >>> Honestly, if someone can finish all the Volume 2 and Volume 3 labs in >>> under 8 hours, I'd be beyond impressed. Those 15 minutes really don't >>> change anything. >>> >>> We *could* offer 8 hour time slots, but then it will be students' >>> responsibility to clean up the pod they work on. We have had this long >>> time ago. Didn't work :-) >>> >>> -- >>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert >>> _______________________________________________ >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>> >>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 07:33:25 +0530 > From: oo IPX <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] active vlan > Message-ID: > <CAGyfWF=cEYW-E2dOfvr8--PBTYZu8HiS7eLayVGoxhOvu=n...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello, > > > > say a switch is configured as > > vlan 2 > vlan 3 > vlan 4 > vlan 5 > vlan 7 > vlan 10 > exit > ! > and there are interfaces in access mode, assigned to vlan 2,3,4,5 only. > > which vlans would be active vlans ? > and there are trunks configured allowing the vlans > > Regards > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 22:45:02 -0500 > From: Tom Kacprzynski <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] vrack time slots availability > Message-ID: > <CAPFZH4CyyBienEXtmt5wOwr_N_6mD_zMuXLYXG3YhKeNCFfw=a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This is the last statement I will make on this. If a company has customers > that would like w,x,y,z, why is the company giving them x and saying you > don't need w,y,z? (Or in this case have other customers telling other > customer that they only need x). I hope this analogy makes sense. > > It's a business decision not a technical issue. Just a suggestion, nothing > to keep on going back and forth about endlessly and argue. > > Thanks, now back to studying :) > > Tom > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The only difference would be eating at the beginning and not at the >> end. Besides, we're not eating up session times. ProctorLab session >> times are sold as 7:45, unless you have back-to-back sessions, in >> which case they are 15:45. >> >> -- >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Jay McMickle <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I agree with the scripted cleanup. Why not have a 15 minute gap between >> session availability and not eat into a students paid 8 hour timeslot? >>> >>> This will be even more of an issue with the 4 hour slots you are >> creating. ;) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) >>> Sent from iJay >>> >>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Josh Atterbury >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Maybe IPX should update the workbooks to say estimated for 7:45 hours >> :) >>>> >>>> Honestly, if someone can finish all the Volume 2 and Volume 3 labs in >>>> under 8 hours, I'd be beyond impressed. Those 15 minutes really don't >>>> change anything. >>>> >>>> We *could* offer 8 hour time slots, but then it will be students' >>>> responsibility to clean up the pod they work on. We have had this long >>>> time ago. Didn't work :-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) >>>> Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >>>> >>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >>>> >>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 21:27:27 -0700 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: oo IPX <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] active vlan > Message-ID: > <cagdym0ye5bngrb0jwv-gfy0j3d2c7ddu81yiykds4g4usuk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > All the VLANs will be active, if there are trunks that allow them. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) > Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:03 PM, oo IPX <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> >> >> say a switch is configured as >> >> vlan 2 >> vlan 3 >> vlan 4 >> vlan 5 >> vlan 7 >> vlan 10 >> exit >> ! >> and there are interfaces in access mode, assigned to vlan 2,3,4,5 only. >> >> which vlans would be active vlans ? >> and there are trunks configured allowing the vlans >> >> Regards >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 00:29:31 -0400 > From: Bob McCouch <[email protected]> > To: oo IPX <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] active vlan > Message-ID: <-347117254495733515@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > If you're asking about the output from a "show vlan" I believe a VLAN > will always show "active" unless you configure the VLAN with the > 'state suspended' command which will disable traffic forwarding on the > VLAN throughout the VTP domain or the 'shutdown' command which > disables forwarding on the VLAN locally on that switch. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 8, 2012, at 11:32 PM, oo IPX <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> say a switch is configured as >> >> vlan 2 >> vlan 3 >> vlan 4 >> vlan 5 >> vlan 7 >> vlan 10 >> exit >> ! >> and there are interfaces in access mode, assigned to vlan 2,3,4,5 only. >> >> which vlans would be active vlans ? >> and there are trunks configured allowing the vlans >> >> Regards >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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